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View Poll Results: Has Joe Forte treated the NBA replacements refs in the Big South fairly?
Yes 27 52.94%
No 24 47.06%
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:13am
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ncaambbref has ZERO credibility

ncaambbref,

Everyone knows that anonymous message boards are a hotbed for disgruntled individuals to vent their frustrations with no consequences. You are clearly a replacement ref who feels slighted, someone with an axe to grind against Forte, or just a plain old internet troll who wants to stir controversy. In any case, you have no spine. For if you did, you would've signed your letter with true conviction, not the principles of a 13 year old girl wanting to sling mud with the other gossip girls.

Good Day.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 11:05am
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ncaambbref,

Everyone knows that anonymous message boards are a hotbed for disgruntled individuals to vent their frustrations with no consequences. You are clearly a replacement ref who feels slighted, someone with an axe to grind against Forte, or just a plain old internet troll who wants to stir controversy. In any case, you have no spine. For if you did, you would've signed your letter with true conviction, not the principles of a 13 year old girl wanting to sling mud with the other gossip girls.

Good Day.
And your post should get the same consideration then.

If Forte didn't have a personal conflict of interest, I'd have no problem with his stance. But either he is protecting his job or giving the appearance of trying to protect his job. In this biz, appearances are (apparently) everything.

This is why they shouldn't hire NBA officials as conference assignors, though.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 11:10am
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I don't think I've ever read such bull$hit on this forum, on both sides of the issue.

Joe Forte has a responsibility to the Big South to put the best officials possible on the floor. If he's not doing that based on a personal vendetta, then he is not working in the best interests of the conference and their schools. It should be easy enough to detect. If there are replacement officials who were on the BSC staff last year, and none of them are receiving games this year...guilty as charged. Fire him.

For any replacement official, you're an idiot if you didn't think there would be repercussions from your actions. Right or wrong, those who don't honor a strike or lockout have always been shunned by those affected. Whether they are later hired is not an issue at this point. That's the league's choice.

Finally, it's laughable that people join the site to point fingers at posters who post "anonymously." Indeed, THREE posters who have never seen fit to join this site and post previously, joined now and posted in this thread just to attack the OP. You guys are so big on "spine," why did you join anonymously?
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 12:08pm
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My name is Adam Jones and I'm from Utah. I was forwarded this thread by a friend and felt the need to post. I am a fan and have no stake in this matter. I do have a stake in anonymous accusations posted on message boards that have the ability to threaten the employment of an individual.

If ncaambbref has the audacity to make these claims, then he should have the balls to identify himself. For how could anyone believe his claims without a signature???

We have found ourselves in an age where anyone can cause life-altering changes to another, without fear of reprisal. And that is wrong.

I hope Mr. Kallander stands by Mr. Forte. As he should.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 06:29pm
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We have found ourselves in an age where anyone can cause life-altering changes to another, without fear of reprisal. And that is wrong.
LOL! So if ncaambbref is a BSC official, he signs the petition and sends it to the commissioner, Mr. Forte sees he did this, you don't think ncaambbref is going to suffer reprisals?

BTW, I know of officials who posted on this site under their real names but stop doing so when they reached the D-1 level. I'm 100% sure they are told not to post on Internet discussion forums under their real names.

All of that is bull**** anyway. Whether he identifies himself or not is nothing. You say you're Adam Jones but I could say I'm Adam Jones an no one here would ever know the difference. And unless your name is Joe Forte, you're wrong. you have no stake in any of this.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 07:12pm
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I know of officials who posted on this site under their real names but stop doing so when they reached the D-1 level. I'm 100% sure they are told not to post on Internet discussion forums under their real names.
I'm only a high school official. I originally posted under my real name. I was advised by my interpreter to post under a pseudo name, at about the same time that Chuck Elias did the same. If it was good enough for Chuck Elias, then it was good enough for me, and I followed my interpreter's advice.

You all know me as BillyMac, an environmental chemical analyst, from Connecticut. In real life, I'm just a sweet transvestite, from Transsexual Transylvania.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 08:49pm
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My name is Adam Jones and I'm from Utah. I was forwarded this thread by a friend and felt the need to post. I am a fan and have no stake in this matter. I do have a stake in anonymous accusations posted on message boards that have the ability to threaten the employment of an individual.

If ncaambbref has the audacity to make these claims, then he should have the balls to identify himself. For how could anyone believe his claims without a signature???

We have found ourselves in an age where anyone can cause life-altering changes to another, without fear of reprisal. And that is wrong.

I hope Mr. Kallander stands by Mr. Forte. As he should.
Ask ANYONE affected and you will find out that what I stated is true and a FACT!
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 08:55pm
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We should be backing these guys because they represent all of us. Don't you see that how this whole thing plays out directly influences how all referees are viewed and respected on all levels?
We are all in this together as referees.

They (NBA referees) do NOT represent me. Period.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 09:03pm
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Amazing...

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have you not seen joe's response yet...

http://www.bscc-refs.com/jf_statement.html
At least there is a response. lol

What about the fact that he sent out emails wanting to know who was working and then did not give any of those guys games when he found out who they were. Amazing how things happen from this site...lol.

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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:15pm
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Re: ncaambbref's lack of education

Wow.

So all of this uproar over a posting from someone with AT MOST a 10th grade education?

"...unprofessional treatment that is being displayed on and to some of your officials..."

Now I may not be an English professor, but I am pretty sure you cannot display treatment, of any kind, "on" a human being.

Only an insecure, shallow, small minded, feeble little man-child would post a message like this on a forum without a signature.

Joe Forte is one of the best officials the NBA has ever had, and if there is any justice in this world, officiating in the NBA will forever remain an unattainable dream for people like you.

I hope you get what you deserve - and that is a lifetime of officiating girls Junior High basketball games in lower Alabama for the rest of your miserable life.

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Old Tue Oct 20, 2009, 07:48am
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To ncaambbref:

You have way too much time on your hands to keep this trivial carping going. It sounds as if you're going to have even more free time on your hands when the season starts. Enjoy..... it won't be long now that we'll all be back on the floor, including Joe and you'll be home with ......yourself.

So sad....
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