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mendi Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:36am

Can you start a dribble by throwing the ball?
 
Can you start a dribble by throwing the ball?
for example, you stand with holding the ball, you have a dribbeling option, and you want to do some trick, so you throw the ball above your defender head and run after the ball continue dribbeling. is it legal? :rolleyes:

bob jenkins Mon Jul 27, 2009 09:43am

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Originally Posted by mendi (Post 617071)
Can you start a dribble by throwing the ball?
for example, you stand with holding the ball, you have a dribbeling option, and you want to do some trick, so you throw the ball above your defender head and run after the ball continue dribbeling. is it legal? :rolleyes:

Yes, if the ball hits the floor first (and the ball is released before the pivot foot is lifted, ...)

BillyMac Mon Jul 27, 2009 06:51pm

Let's Go To The Casebook ...
 
NFHS 4.44.3 SITUATION D: A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. RULING: Traveling violation since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing and subsequent catch is illegal. (9-4)

amusedofficial Tue Jul 28, 2009 06:35am

OK, what about dribbling bouncing the ball off the back of a teammate to get it around a defender chasing the ball and continuing the dribble?

As in:

A1 secures defensive rebound midway from lane to sideline. Guarded by B1 who is along the sideline. Meanwhile, A2 has his back to play as he screens B2 from attacking A1. To get ahead of B1, A1 bounces ball at an angle off the back of A2, recovers it several feet ahead of B1 and picks up dribble going down court?

Has dribble ended when the ball is bounced off A2? Iit wasn't a try for goal or touch by an opponent, as per 9-5; can it be called a pass even though it was not a throw to another player, as 4-31? Is it analogous to bouncing the ball off the backboard to yourself when it is not, in the judgment of the official, a try for goal?

Violation?

bob jenkins Tue Jul 28, 2009 07:59am

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 617332)
OK, what about dribbling bouncing the ball off the back of a teammate to get it around a defender chasing the ball and continuing the dribble?

As in:

A1 secures defensive rebound midway from lane to sideline. Guarded by B1 who is along the sideline. Meanwhile, A2 has his back to play as he screens B2 from attacking A1. To get ahead of B1, A1 bounces ball at an angle off the back of A2, recovers it several feet ahead of B1 and picks up dribble going down court?

That sounds like a pass to me.

blackvenom2000 Tue Jul 28, 2009 03:09pm

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Originally Posted by mendi (Post 617071)
Can you start a dribble by throwing the ball?
for example, you stand with holding the ball, you have a dribbeling option, and you want to do some trick, so you throw the ball above your defender head and run after the ball continue dribbeling. is it legal? :rolleyes:

It's legal but it will rarely work unless you're playing 1 on 1 streetball or something.

Hugh Refner Tue Jul 28, 2009 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by blackvenom2000 (Post 617512)
It's legal but it will rarely work unless you're playing 1 on 1 streetball or something.

If you're playing 1 on 1 streetball or something, everything works.

mendi Tue Jul 28, 2009 06:13pm

another question
 
can you throw the ball in the air and catch it (the pivot foot does not move).?

BillyMac Tue Jul 28, 2009 06:31pm

Let's Go To The Casebook ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mendi (Post 617545)
Can you throw the ball in the air and catch it (the pivot foot does not move)?

NFHS 4.44.3 SITUATION D: A1 tosses the ball from one hand to the other while keeping his/her pivot foot in contact with the floor; RULING: Legal

Adam Tue Jul 28, 2009 08:21pm

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Originally Posted by mendi (Post 617545)
can you throw the ball in the air and catch it (the pivot foot does not move).?

Think about it this way, unless there's a rule disallowing it, it's legal (regardless of what "it" is.)

Johnny Ringo Tue Jul 28, 2009 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by mendi (Post 617071)
Can you start a dribble by throwing the ball?
for example, you stand with holding the ball, you have a dribbeling option, and you want to do some trick, so you throw the ball above your defender head and run after the ball continue dribbeling. is it legal? :rolleyes:

Yes, as long as you continue to dribble. That would be considered the start of a dribble.

However, if you were to catch the ball and then dribble - that would be a double dribble because you started a new dribble. The act of throwing the ball above the head of your defender and letting it bounce would be consider the start of a dribble.

mendi Wed Jul 29, 2009 02:43am

hmm
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 617564)
Think about it this way, unless there's a rule disallowing it, it's legal (regardless of what "it" is.)

thanks, looks right.
but im sure that if somone on street basketball will throw the ball and catch it without the ball touch anything, even if he didnt move, everybody will call travelling:cool:

Nevadaref Wed Jul 29, 2009 03:42am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 617565)
Yes, as long as you continue to dribble. That would be considered the start of a dribble.

However, if you were to catch the ball and then dribble - that would be a double dribble because you started a new dribble. The act of throwing the ball above the head of your defender and letting it bounce would be consider the start of a dribble.

Well said.

How did your week of tournaments in Vegas go?

The highlight of mine was getting to work two games with tomegun! :)

tomegun Wed Jul 29, 2009 05:13am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 617618)
Well said.

How did your week of tournaments in Vegas go?

The highlight of mine was getting to work two games with tomegun! :)

Come on! Buttering me up will get you nothing...except more games next time.

Raymond Wed Jul 29, 2009 07:42am

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 617621)
Come on! Buttering me up will get you nothing...except more games next time.

Did you work any games with my buddy, the one with the astronaut's name?


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