Officials' Time-out signal and mechanic

Back In The Saddle

You'll often see officials signal a "30" or pat themselves on the chest as an additional (although unnecessary, and technically incorrect) signal. I'm not recommending those, just saying you'll see them in common usage. If the reason you're stopping the game is obvious, nobody's watching you anyway. So a whistle and stop clock is quite sufficient.

grunewar

Back In The Saddle wrote
You'll often see officials signal a "30" or pat themselves on the chest as an additional (although unnecessary, and technically incorrect) signal. I'm not recommending those, just saying you'll see them in common usage.

GUILTY! And now, something else I will work on!

tomegun

This is an easy one. Officials don't have time outs.

mick

Snaqwells wrote
No need to report to the table, and yes, that's the signal.

A quick verbal or visual communication to that side of the court is not a bad thing.

mbyron

Hugh Refner wrote
OK - just kidding. Damn, I'm sounding more like Padgett every day. BTW - I wonder what has happened to him? I started reading this board about six months ago (started posting just recently) and really liked his humor - well, most of the time.

Sure, but don't you like the break, too?

dsqrddgd909

tomegun wrote
This is an easy one. Officials don't have time outs.

Did a little more research,

"3.4.6 A. If a player is injured, an officials' time-out shall be declared..."

I think that's the only place it's mentioned.

M&M Guy

Be careful - you don't want to be calling a T on yourself if you request over the limit... 🙂

grunewar

a referee can "declare" a timeout for himself, but a coach or player must "request or ask" for one and then a referee "grants" it, right? 😉

mick

grunewar wrote
a referee can "declare" a timeout for himself, but a coach or player must "request or ask" for one and then a referee "grants" it, right? 😉

🙂
Yea, most times it'll be granted, if the Official hears or sees the request.

ILMalti

grunewar wrote
a referee can "declare" a timeout for himself, but a coach or player must "request or ask" for one and then a referee "grants" it, right? 😉

mick wrote
🙂
Yea, most times it'll be granted, if the Official hears or sees the request.

Assuming the coach requests the time out at the appropiate time. The official ensures that it is ok to grant (example team control belongs to the coaches team etc ) That is why a time out is not immediately granted. The official needs to ensure that he/she can grant the request.

Refer you to Rule 5.8.3

mick

ILMalti wrote
Assuming the coach requests the time out at the appropiate time. The official ensures that it is ok to grant (example team control belongs to the coaches team etc ) That is why a time out is not immediately granted. The official needs to ensure that he/she can grant the request.

Refer you to Rule 5.8.3

Sometimes I give 'em to the wrong coach.
There's a rule for that, too. Eh? 🙂

Adam

ILMalti wrote
Assuming the coach requests the time out at the appropiate time. The official ensures that it is ok to grant (example team control belongs to the coaches team etc ) That is why a time out is not immediately granted. The official needs to ensure that he/she can grant the request.

Refer you to Rule 5.8.3

Really? Team control?

ILMalti

dsqrddgd909 wrote
Did a little more research,

"3.4.6 A. If a player is injured, an officials' time-out shall be declared..."

I think that's the only place it's mentioned.

Can you please confirm 3.4.6A.

ILMalti

Snaqwells wrote
Really? Team control?

That was an example. If coach of team A requests a time out when the ball is in posession of B1 who is say dribbling (ie team control of B), the time out request cannot be granted.

Yes really

I did qualify with EXAMPLE

ILMalti

mick wrote
Sometimes I give 'em to the wrong coach.
There's a rule for that, too. Eh? 🙂

Yup there is a rule for most things 🙂 I do say for all but not to start a new whole topic in this thread....

Let me add the rulling 5.8.3

Grants a players/head coach's oral or visual request for a time out such requests being granted ONLY when :
a) the ball is in control or disposal of a player of his/her team
b) the ball is dead....unless...

Adam

ILMalti wrote
That was an example. If coach of team A requests a time out when the ball is in posession of B1 who is say dribbling (ie team control of B), the time out request cannot be granted.

Yes really

I did qualify with EXAMPLE

My point is that team control is irrelevant to awarding a timeout.

Adam

ILMalti wrote
Yup there is a rule for most things 🙂 I do say for all but not to start a new whole topic in this thread....

Let me add the rulling 5.8.3

Grants a players/head coach's oral or visual request for a time out such requests being granted ONLY when :
a) the ball is in control or disposal of a player of his/her team
b) the ball is dead....unless...

So, what happens when you blow your whistle and award the timeout to a coach whose team does not have th ball? That's what Mitch was getting at.

ILMalti

Snaqwells wrote
My point is that team control is irrelevant to awarding a timeout.

see my post to Mick and see rule 5.8.3. Team control is relevant

ILMalti

Snaqwells wrote
So, what happens when you blow your whistle and award the timeout to a coach whose team does not have th ball? That's what Mitch was getting at.

Bad call and POI. You cannot award a team for our error. or for taking advantage of the situation

Adam

ILMalti wrote
see my post to Mick and see rule 5.8.3. Team control is relevant

No, it's not. You actually quoted the relevant part of the rule.

"Player control" is key, and yes it must be a player no that coach's team. However, "team" control is not mentioned.

A coach's team may have team control but a timeout still not be granted by rule.