Jump ball or out of bounds?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't see what one play has to do with the other.

They both involve a player making an extraordinary play. With a dead ball.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In my scenario, which actually happened to me in a pick-up game, I elevated and attempted to shoot, the first defender got his hand on top of the ball as I was elevating.

Nice defensive play.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

As I was coming back down I was able to pull the ball back and release it.

Very nice, athletic play on your part. Too bad it doesn't count.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The 2nd defender blocked my shot.

Nice play on his part. Won't help his stats though.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

There is no way in heck that if this play occurred in a regulation game that I would blow my whistle and rule a held ball.

Now that may be true. We could have a very ... enthusiastic discussion about whether this reaction falls into the "that way it's really done" category. Same with the play where the shooter gets capped, and then loses the ball. I've never seen either of these plays blown dead immediately.

But, by rule, it's a held ball, the ball is dead, and the extraordinary second effort is irrelevant.