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Old Sat Jun 27, 2009, 04:00pm
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Tell the D2 evaluator to go back to working driveway basketball. Under NF rules, team control ends when there is a shot, a dead ball or the other team gains control. Team B would have only gained team control if one of their players gained player control. Player control is defined as holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. B1 did neither, so no player control, therefore no team control for team B, therefore no loss of team control for team A.

You are not the clueless one here. You did not kick it. Of course, if B1 would have kicked it, it's a dead ball.
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Old Sat Jun 27, 2009, 04:42pm
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Tell the D2 evaluator to go back to working driveway basketball.
Don't be too hard on the evaluator- It was a good camp and he gave me ten
other suggestions that were great advice. I'm guessing the college rule is
different as well.

In this case, I blame the rule. A rule is not very effective when 99% of coaches and players don't know or understand it. This rule falls in that category.

But this an old topic on this forum. I shouldn't incite anything.
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Old Sat Jun 27, 2009, 04:53pm
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I'm guessing the college rule is
different as well.
Nope, the NCAA rule is exactly the same. It is worded differently because of there being team control during a throw-in, but the written exceptions make the rule yield ALL of the same calls as at the NFHS level.
This D2 guy must be one of those officials with great "presence" to offset his lack of rules knowledge.

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In this case, I blame the rule. A rule is not very effective when 99% of coaches and players don't know or understand it. This rule falls in that category.
I blame the coaches, players, and officials who don't know or understand the rule. I have seen numerous backcourt violations passed on at the NCAA level because the "philosophy" that it is a picky call which will only upset people from the penalized team. Obviously, I don't agree with that thought.
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Old Mon Jun 29, 2009, 02:57pm
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But this an old topic on this forum. I shouldn't incite anything.
Too late, you incited by posting.
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