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rottiron01 Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:39am

Overtime
 
NCAA rules - When a game goes to overtime and a team is in the bonus do they stay in the bonus?

Overtime rules state that overtime is an extension of the second half but I keep being told that rule changes may give teams fouls before the bonus in OT.
Thanks for any help.

Raymond Fri Jun 19, 2009 09:23am

Rather than answer your question I'm going to ask you one.

Who has been telling you that the "rule changes" and where did they say they gathered this information?

Adam Fri Jun 19, 2009 09:55am

Probably some "veteran official."

Mark Padgett Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rottiron01 (Post 609793)
When a game goes into overtime

When a game goes into what???????????? :confused:

SAK Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:38pm

Overtime is an extension of the 4th quarter, or in this case the second half. Play on.

Mark Padgett Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 609859)
Overtime is an extension of the 4th quarter, or in this case the second half. Play on.

You must be new here. ;)

SAK Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:45pm

Mark, I am not that new, just have not posted a lot.

However even a new guy could see that comment coming from 10 miles a way. Sorry I just don't hate overtime.

Mark Padgett Fri Jun 19, 2009 02:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 609863)
Sorry I just don't hate overtime.

You need to take my seminar. :D

BTW - the enrollment fee includes meds! :eek:

BillyMac Fri Jun 19, 2009 06:10pm

My New Best Friend ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 609863)
I just don't hate overtime.

Amen.

Mark Padgett Fri Jun 19, 2009 06:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 609911)
Amen.

As far as I'm concerned, "OT" stands for "Officiating Tragedy". :(

BillyMac Fri Jun 19, 2009 06:48pm

I Love 99 and 44/100 Percent Of Mark Padgett's Posts ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 609914)
As far as I'm concerned, "OT" stands for "Officiating Tragedy".

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SAK Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:22pm

Mark, I tend to disagree with you about your definition of OT. In fact I feel that it can be the absolute opposite. I surely hope that when it comes close to the end of the game you don't use the possibility of overtime to influence any of your calls. If you do that would be a travesty.

BillyMac Sat Jun 20, 2009 06:05am

Nunquam titillius dormitorius draconis...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 609936)
Mark, I tend to disagree with you about your definition of OT. In fact I feel that it can be the absolute opposite. I surely hope that when it comes close to the end of the game you don't use the possibility of overtime to influence any of your calls. If you do that would be a travesty.

SAK: As we like to say here in Connecticut, "Don't poke the bear". After only fifty posts I can guarantee that you really don't know Mark Padgett, although, I'm sure that no one, with the possible exception of Mrs. Mark Padgett, really knows Mark Padgett. Save your breath. He'll never admit that he's kidding about his stance on overtime. In fact, your post gives him an opening you can drive a truck through, so I'll pretend I'm Mark Padgett and respond:

From SAK: I feel that it can be the absolute opposite.
Probable Mark Padgett reply: I surely hope that when it comes close to the end of the game you don't use the excitement of a possible overtime to influence any of your calls.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/...38a42a4c_m.jpg

Ref Ump Welsch Sat Jun 20, 2009 02:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 609875)
You need to take my seminar. :D

BTW - the enrollment fee includes meds! :eek:

The good stuff? :D

Mark Padgett Sat Jun 20, 2009 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 609961)
After only fifty posts I can guarantee that you really don't know Mark Padgett, although, I'm sure that no one, with the possible exception of Mrs. Mark Padgett, really knows Mark Padgett.

BillyMac - I have shown this to my wife and she had one of her cousins in the Soprano family track down your contact information. The last person to refer to her as "Mrs. Mark Padgett" is swimming at the bottom of Lake Mead in cement overshoes. Expect a visit soon. It was nice knowing you.


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BillyMac Sat Jun 20, 2009 06:06pm

I Sincerely Apologize ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 610035)
The last person to refer to her as "Mrs. Mark Padgett" is swimming at the bottom of Lake Mead in cement overshoes.

Mark Padgett: I'm sorry. I'm sure that she prefers to be referred to as "Mrs. Skippy Weaselpants".
P.S. How did you like my Mark Padgett impersonation in replying to SAK?

mbyron Sun Jun 21, 2009 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 610035)
BillyMac - I have shown this to my wife and she had one of her cousins in the Soprano family track down your contact information. The last person to refer to her as "Mrs. Mark Padgett" is swimming at the bottom of Lake Mead in cement overshoes. Expect a visit soon. It was nice knowing you.

Padgett, this is all in good fun for you, BillyMac, me, and whoever else knows you. A newcomer might definitely take a different message from your post.

BillyMac Sun Jun 21, 2009 06:34pm

You Can Run, But You Can't Hide ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 610049)
Padgett, this is all in good fun for you, BillyMac, me, and whoever else knows you. A newcomer might definitely take a different message from your post.

I know for a fact that the FBI monitors this website all the time. Don't ask me how I know, because if I tell you, I'll have to kill you. In any case, I'm sure that a SWAT team is about to converge on the Weaselpants' residence in a few minutes.

Skippy: You're next "wife's" first name might end up being "Rocky". No pun intended on the "end up" part.

Mark Padgett Sun Jun 21, 2009 09:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 610049)
Padgett, this is all in good fun for you, BillyMac, me, and whoever else knows you. A newcomer might definitely take a different message from your post.

And your point? :confused:

mbyron Mon Jun 22, 2009 06:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 610087)
And your point? :confused:

Nothing in your post suggested that it was intended to be humorous.

Rich Mon Jun 22, 2009 07:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 610049)
Padgett, this is all in good fun for you, BillyMac, me, and whoever else knows you. A newcomer might definitely take a different message from your post.

People seem to forget that a good newcomer takes some time to get to know the people who have been posting a while before jumping in with both feet. And actually, SAK fits the mold of a good newcomer -- he already said he's been around for a while and knew what Mark was going to post.

Personally, a great game goes to OT and I feel like it's a great thing. But not all OT games are created equal -- I had a varsity girls game a few years back where the score was 24-24 after regulation and we called more fouls than that, including technicals on both head coaches. I'd rather have had painful dental work than sit through 4 more minutes of that.

Adam Mon Jun 22, 2009 09:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 610122)
People seem to forget that a good newcomer takes some time to get to know the people who have been posting a while before jumping in with both feet. And actually, SAK fits the mold of a good newcomer -- he already said he's been around for a while and knew what Mark was going to post.

Personally, a great game goes to OT and I feel like it's a great thing. But not all OT games are created equal -- I had a varsity girls game a few years back where the score was 24-24 after regulation and we called more fouls than that, including technicals on both head coaches. I'd rather have had painful dental work than sit through 4 more minutes of that.

In one season I had the experience of both a great and a horrible OT game. Varsity boys, home was down big early, climbed back the entire 2nd half and sent it to OT with a layup with just a few seconds left. Great game.
JV girls, small school, score tied at 18 with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. After the first OT, the score was tied at 18.

grunewar Mon Jun 22, 2009 09:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 610122)
But not all OT games are created equal --

Nov 2008, Maryland beat Vermont in OT, 89-74. Maryland tied the game with 6 seconds to go in regulation and apparently sapped all the strength and enthusiasm from Vermont who was ahead most of the second half. Md outscored Vt 17-2 in OT!

That's the most lopsided OT I've witnessed. Any others?

Adam Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 610138)
Nov 2008, Maryland beat Vermont in OT, 89-74. Maryland tied the game with 6 seconds to go in regulation and apparently sapped all the strength and enthusiasm from Vermont who was ahead most of the second half. Md outscored Vt 17-2 in OT!

That's the most lopsided OT I've witnessed. Any others?

The varsity game I alluded to above, actually. Home had tied it with a couple seconds left after trailing by almost 20 late in the 2nd quarter. Score ended up 70-55 in OT. Home won 15-0 in OT, lots of free throws.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:26pm

Mark Padgett really loves OT because he just loves wearing his black and white striped velvet officiating shirt and black satin hotpants with black fishnet stockings and black patent leather officiating shoes with 6" stilletto heels.

MTD, Sr.

Mark Padgett Mon Jun 22, 2009 01:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 610175)
Mark Padgett really loves OT because he just loves wearing his black and white striped velvet officiating shirt and black satin hotpants with black fishnet stockings and black patent leather officiating shoes with 6" stilletto heels.

MTD, Sr.

Actually, the shoes are leopard skin and have 9" heels - and they have nothing to do with overtimes, unless the coaches "misbehave", if you know what I mean. :rolleyes:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._stockings.jpg

SAK Mon Jun 22, 2009 09:49pm

As I currently do mostly boys High School games, I hope and pray that I never see any of the male coaches in that.

Rich Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 610186)
Actually, the shoes are leopard skin and have 9" heels - and they have nothing to do with overtimes, unless the coaches "misbehave", if you know what I mean. :rolleyes:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._stockings.jpg

Padgett, do you shave or use Nair on those legs?

Adam Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 610266)
As I currently do mostly boys High School games, I hope and pray that I never see any of the male coaches in that.

well, what's worse if working with a partner wearing that.

still wishing I hadn't read this thread

Mark Padgett Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 610273)
well, what's worse if working with a partner wearing that.

Working with a partner wearing this.

http://www.dungtongue.com/i/billypacker.jpg

justacoach Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:58am

Billy "Boy George" Packer?????

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 610296)
Billy "Boy George" Packer?????

The way he talks, it's Billy "Ozzy Osbourne" Packer! :p

icallfouls Tue Jun 23, 2009 01:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 610040)
Mark Padgett: I'm sorry. I'm sure that she prefers to be referred to as "Mrs. Skippy Weaselpants".
P.S. How did you like my Mark Padgett impersonation in replying to SAK?

And Mrs. Padgett refers to Mark as Mr Slump Buster :D:D:D

Mark Padgett Tue Jun 23, 2009 01:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 610390)
And Mrs. Padgett refers to Mark as Mr Slump Buster :D:D:D

No, at my age it's, "Mr. Is That A 60 Second Or A 30 Second?". :(

icallfouls Tue Jun 23, 2009 01:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 610394)
No, at my age it's, "Mr. Is That A 60 Second Or A 30 Second?". :(


I think Mrs Padget uses the NCAAW TO mechanic to call for a substitution :D:D:D rather than waste a precious 30 seconds

Mark Padgett Tue Jun 23, 2009 02:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 610398)
I think Mrs Padget uses the NCAAW TO mechanic to call for a substitution :D:D:D rather than waste a precious 30 seconds

Yeah - but the problem is that the subs never have their shirts tucked in - maybe 'cause they're not wearing any. ;)


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