NBA playoffs (NBA haters stay away)

[dsturdy5]

I missed the game, can someone explain to me what happened with the Mo Williams/Dwight Howard play? It looked like Williams threw the ball at Howard after Howard blocked a shot on a fast break. The lead was right there and saw the whole thing, no technical, nothing. Any idea why?

[APG]

Originally Posted by dsturdy5

I missed the game, can someone explain to me what happened with the Mo Williams/Dwight Howard play? It looked like Williams threw the ball at Howard after Howard blocked a shot on a fast break. The lead was right there and saw the whole thing, no technical, nothing. Any idea why?

I'm pretty sure the lead didn't see the play cause it was a no-brainer technical foul. In fact, I think they even asked the officials about it during the following commercial break, and they as much admitted to that.

[dsturdy5]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I'm pretty sure the lead didn't see the play cause it was a no-brainer technical foul. In fact, I think they even asked the officials about it during the following commercial break, and they as much admitted to that.

Thanks. Like I said, I missed the game so didn't hear that.

[zm1283]

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA? Just curious because the play-by-play guy in the Lakers/Nuggets game said that there "Have been several backcourt violations in the playoffs" for not getting it across in 8 seconds. I know the NBA's terminology is way different than other rule sets, but I'm pretty sure a backcourt violation is the same everywhere.

Good lord. Carmello just fouled Areza on a loose ball (clearly displacement) and the PBP guy is saying "Well Areza didn't have the ball"..what a moron. Van Gundy said "That's playoff basketball, they should let it go".

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA? Just curious because the play-by-play guy in the Lakers/Nuggets game said that there "Have been several backcourt violations in the playoffs" for not getting it across in 8 seconds. I know the NBA's terminology is way different than other rule sets, but I'm pretty sure a backcourt violation is the same everywhere.

Good lord. Carmello just fouled Areza on a loose ball (clearly displacement) and the PBP guy is saying "Well Areza didn't have the ball"..what a moron. Van Gundy said "That's playoff basketball, they should let it go".

You inquire about the terminology for a violation because how a TV guy states it worries you, then in the next breath you note how low the rules knowledge of these people is and how idiotic some of their comments are.

So what do you think are the chances that the play-by-play guy is right about the 8-second violation?

Hmmmmmmmm......

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You inquire about the terminology for a violation because how a TV guy states it worries you, then in the next breath you note how low the rules knowledge of these people is and how idiotic some of their comments are.

So what do you think are the chances that the play-by-play guy is right about the 8-second violation?

Hmmmmmmmm......

Sorry. I was trying to use sarcasm in the first paragraph, but I couldn't get it to sound right.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA?

Here is the rule (from NBA rule book)

Guess technically they should call it an "eight-second violation"

Section IX-Eight-Second Rule
A team shall not be in continuous possession of a ball which is in its backcourt for more than 8 consecutive seconds.
EXCEPTION (1): A new 8 seconds is awarded if the defense: (1) kicks or punches the ball, (2) is assessed a technical foul, or (3) is issued a delay of game warning.
EXCEPTION (2): A new 8 seconds is awarded if play is suspended to administer Comments on the Rules-N-Infection Control.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the mid-court line.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Brad

Here is the rule (from NBA rule book)

Guess technically they should call it an "eight-second violation"

Section IX-Eight-Second Rule
A team shall not be in continuous possession of a ball which is in its backcourt for more than 8 consecutive seconds.
EXCEPTION (1): A new 8 seconds is awarded if the defense: (1) kicks or punches the ball, (2) is assessed a technical foul, or (3) is issued a delay of game warning.
EXCEPTION (2): A new 8 seconds is awarded if play is suspended to administer Comments on the Rules-N-Infection Control.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the mid-court line.

What the heck is that? Is it really written that way in the NBA rule book?

[Nevadaref]

I see that the league office is supporting the officials again.



A guy clearly throws an elbow. The officials are on top of it and make a strong call. Now the league comes back and rescinds the decision.

NBA rescinds flagrant against Orlando Magic's Anthony Johnson - ESPN

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The NBA has rescinded the flagrant foul against Orlando Magic guard Anthony Johnson for elbowing Cleveland's Mo Williams in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference finals.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What the heck is that? Is it really written that way in the NBA rule book?

It is correct, just written very poorly. Comment N discusses what to do in the event of a player bleeding (infection control). One of the consequences of a bleeding player is that the offensive team will get a new 8 seconds.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by dsturdy5

I missed the game, can someone explain to me what happened with the Mo Williams/Dwight Howard play? It looked like Williams threw the ball at Howard after Howard blocked a shot on a fast break. The lead was right there and saw the whole thing, no technical, nothing. Any idea why?

The L and C had a double whistle on the foul on Lebron James. Williams and Howard were on the endline when williams threw the ball at Howard. Both calling officials were focused on the foul and were not looking at the players on the baseline. That left the trail who was out of our picture. I can only imagine that he did not see it either because it was a no brainer. A lesson for all officials about not losing your focus after the whistle.