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teachercheriw Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:52pm

charging foul or not?
 
Hi, I have a player who at our last game kept getting a charging foul called on him. I need to know if this is really a foul or not. The player drives the ball to the net, jumps up to shoot and drops his head which sometimes hit another player. Is this really a foul? If this is a fould what should the penalty be?

thanks

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:47am

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Originally Posted by teachercheriw (Post 595839)
Hi, I have a player who at our last game kept getting a charging foul called on him. I need to know if this is really a foul or not. The player drives the ball to the net, jumps up to shoot and drops his head which sometimes hit another player. Is this really a foul? If this is a fould what should the penalty be?

thanks

Sorry to break it to you. It's really a foul. On your player. Other team gets the ball.

JRutledge Tue Apr 14, 2009 03:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by teachercheriw (Post 595839)
Hi, I have a player who at our last game kept getting a charging foul called on him. I need to know if this is really a foul or not. The player drives the ball to the net, jumps up to shoot and drops his head which sometimes hit another player. Is this really a foul? If this is a fould what should the penalty be?

thanks

Honestly I have no idea. It is hard to say based on what you say. There could be a foul, but that depends on the judgment of the officials working that game.

Peace

teachercheriw Tue Apr 14, 2009 06:10am

basket or not?
 
okay, let's say it is called as a charging foul, does the basket count?

mbyron Tue Apr 14, 2009 06:12am

Maybe this will help.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rule 4-7-2
Charging is illegal personal contact caused by pushing or moving
into an opponent’s torso.
a. A player who is moving with the ball is required to stop or change direction
to avoid contact if a defensive player has obtained a legal guarding position
in his/her path.
b. If a guard has obtained a legal guarding position, the player with the ball
must get his/her head and shoulders past the torso of the defensive player.
If contact occurs on the torso of the defensive player, the dribbler is
responsible for the contact.
c. There must be reasonable space between two defensive players or a
defensive player and a boundary line to allow the dribbler to continue in
his/her path. If there is less than 3 feet of space, the dribbler has the greater
responsibility for the contact.
d. The player with the ball may not push the torso of the guard to gain an
advantage to pass, shoot or dribble.

Of course, you also need to know what "legal guarding position" is.

SAK Tue Apr 14, 2009 06:20am

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Originally Posted by teachercheriw (Post 595871)
okay, let's say it is called as a charging foul, does the basket count?

no

Raymond Tue Apr 14, 2009 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by teachercheriw (Post 595871)
okay, let's say it is called as a charging foul, does the basket count?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAK (Post 595875)
no

It could count if you are playing under NCAA-M rules.

Adam Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:57am

He's hitting the defender with his head? Is he moving or affecting the defender at all? If not, it's probably a no-call. That said, more contact gets called at lower levels just for being contact. He shouldn't lower his head, it's not doing him any good.

FrankHtown Wed Apr 15, 2009 09:14am

"jumps up to shoot and drops his head "

If you drop your head, is that considered a fumble??

M&M Guy Wed Apr 15, 2009 09:31am

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Originally Posted by FrankHtown (Post 596074)
"jumps up to shoot and drops his head "

If you drop your head, is that considered a fumble??

Depends. If it was done on purpose it could be the start of a dribble, which, of course, is a violation.

Brad Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:16am

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Originally Posted by FrankHtown (Post 596074)
"jumps up to shoot and drops his head "

If you drop your head, is that considered a fumble??

It's very similar to "leaving your feet" :)

Mark Padgett Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:41pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 596273)
It's very similar to "leaving your feet" :)

Or "hands off". :D


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