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Nevadaref Thu Apr 02, 2009 07:49pm

NIT Championship
 
Officials: Ed Corbett, Michael Stephens, John Hughes

Whack City tonight in NYC.

Two technicals and an intentional personal so far.

Hughes calls the intentional right under Stephens's nose. :eek:

I happen to think that it was the proper call.

Mark Padgett Thu Apr 02, 2009 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 593713)
Hughes calls the intentional right under Stephens's nose. :eek: I happen to think that it was the proper call.

So you didn't think it was a little NIT-picky? :rolleyes:

truerookie Thu Apr 02, 2009 08:22pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 593713)
Officials: Ed Corbett, Michael Stephens, John Hughes

I happen to think that it was the proper call.


I don't totally agree with the call.

From my position, I seen a player go for the ball and prevented the other player from further injury by wrapping his arms around him.

mick Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:04pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 593717)
So you didn't think it was a little NIT-picky? :rolleyes:

:)

dsqrddgd909 Fri Apr 03, 2009 07:11am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 593717)
So you didn't think it was a little NIT-picky? :rolleyes:

super bad groaner

GoodwillRef Fri Apr 03, 2009 07:19am

From Hughes vantage point he saw the player grab him around the waist...trust your partner? I can see we Hughes called it the way he saw it.

A Pennsylvania Coach Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:04am

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Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 593719)
I don't totally agree with the call.

From my position, I seen a player go for the ball and prevented the other player from further injury by wrapping his arms around him.

Agree completely. A player I was coaching about 10 years ago made a similar play in a playoff game, and an intentional was called then too. If she wasn't such a nice kid, she would've never put her off arm around the opponent to protect her, and that's what got the intentional called. Same thing last night. And I'm a PSU alum!

Mark Padgett Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:55am

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 593775)
super bad groaner

Thanks. I aims to please. http://www.planet-science.com/text_o.../ICONgroan.jpg

Nevadaref Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:27pm

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Originally Posted by truerookie (Post 593719)
I don't totally agree with the call.

From my position, I seen a player go for the ball and prevented the other player from further injury by wrapping his arms around him.

Players need to stop wrapping up their opponents in bear hugs. The excuse given is ALWAYS that he/she was trying to prevent the other person from falling and being injured. But if the player hadn't fouled in such a ridiculous manner and instead had made a clean attempt to prevent the basket, then there wouldn't be a possible injury situation. In other words, don't buy the cop out excuse. We have far too many officials who fail to penalize actions as intentional fouls because they try to rationalize some excuse. (Note: not saying that you are in that category, just a general observation.)

On this particular play, the wrapping up afterwards isn't even important to the decision. If one watches the video of the play, one will see that the offensive player has a clear path to the basket for an easy score and the defender comes running in and takes an out-of-control chop at his arms. This action was intended for one purposely only--to foul to prevent an easy score. Therefore, the only proper sanction for that action is an intentional personal foul. That defender was making sure that he made enough contact to ensure that the opponent could not make a basket. He clearly negated the opponent's obvious advantageous postion through an illegal tactic. That approach is what the NCAA brass wants stamped out of the game.


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