Mark Padgett I don't know about PTS, but it seems that all the coaches at all the sites have PMS. 😮
mick BktBallRef wroteIt goes deeper than that. Forever reason, the NCAA has chosen not to use it. If they can purchase floors and ship them to each Regional site, then they can certainly spend $50000 to have PTS at each site. For whatever reason, they chosen not to use. They haven't used it in years. Floors from the Upper Peninsula ? Connor Sports Flooring, a company that uses harvested maple from Michigan's Upper Peninsula or northern Wisconsin, does that.
tjones1 I spoke to Mike about this issue two years ago. This was when there were several timing issues during the previous tournament and then a few occurred that year too. He felt that they would finally come around and so did I.
GoodwillRef I think the NCAA has some issues with PTS...it seems to work fine all game until the last minute or so then there are problems.
BktBallRef tjones1 wroteI spoke to Mike about this issue two years ago. This was when there were several timing issues during the previous tournament and then a few occurred that year too. He felt that they would finally come around and so did I. They haven't yet. Did he say why they weren't using it?
jdmara I was told by an NCAA Women's official that the NCAA questions it's reliability still because of "some specific instances during the regular seasons." I guess they feel there are still come bugs to be worked out with the system. He had not heard the exact situation(s) that let to this opinion though. -Josh
bas2456 GoodwillRef wroteI think the NCAA has some issues with PTS...it seems to work fine all game until the last minute or so then there are problems. I've always wondered how these things work, could someone explain it to me?
GoodwillRef Each official has a power pack on their waistband that has a button that you push to start the clock...the timer also starts the clock when you chopped the clock in. Each official also has a small microphone in their lanyard that is tuned into the Fox 40 whistle and when you blow the whistle the clock should stop. The timer continues to do their normal duties as a back up. Most officials that I work with really don't care for it at all (NCAAW).
bas2456 Maybe then the reason it doesn't work in the last couple minutes of a game is the noise level in the arena usually rises?
eyezen bas2456 wroteMaybe then the reason it doesn't work in the last couple minutes of a game is the noise level in the arena usually rises? That's why the table timer should be getting it killed also.
bas2456 Well ya, but maybe that's the reason the NCAA didn't spend the money to have the systems installed, since they're unreliable at the most crucial point of the game.
Back In The Saddle eyezen wroteThat's why the table timer should be getting it killed also. Didn't the most recent controversies surrounding this involve the clock stopping for no apparent reason for periods of time? The timer doing his/her job properly wouldn't prevent that (assuming that PTS was responsible for the strange behavior, which we don't know)
sseltser Question for people who have used the PTS. Can the officials stop the clock on made baskets in the final minute of NCAA games using their belt packs? Basically what type of buttons or switches are on the belt packs?
GoodwillRef sseltser wroteQuestion for people who have used the PTS. Can the officials stop the clock on made baskets in the final minute of NCAA games using their belt packs? Basically what type of buttons or switches are on the belt packs? I don't think so..there is one button on the bottom of the pack to start the clock.
JS 20 Serious question---Is the use of PTS the reason it seems "major" NCAA officials are hitting their whistle 2 or 3 or more times on every call? Are they instructed to do that to make sure the PTS picks up the whistle and stops the clock?
Camron Rust JS 20 wroteSerious question---Is the use of PTS the reason it seems "major" NCAA officials are hitting their whistle 2 or 3 or more times on every call? Are they instructed to do that to make sure the PTS picks up the whistle and stops the clock? Not likely. 🙄
BktBallRef bas2456 wroteWell ya, but maybe that's the reason the NCAA didn't spend the money to have the systems installed, since they're unreliable at the most crucial point of the game. The problem is that isn't true. They're used at every school in the ACC. i can assure you that no NCAA Tourney venue is as loud as Hansbrough Indoor Stadium when Carolina and Duke play. And it works just fine. PTS is much more reliable than human timers starting and stopping the clock. The first two rounds of the tournament proved that out. As long as the batteries are fresh, there's rarely a problem.
BktBallRef sseltser wroteQuestion for people who have used the PTS. Can the officials stop the clock on made baskets in the final minute of NCAA games using their belt packs? Basically what type of buttons or switches are on the belt packs? There's one button on the bottom that starts the clock. The whistle stops the clock. The timer would have to stop the click in the final minute. No big deal, he does it when PTS isn't used.