Stay out of my pond!

[BBall_Junkie]

agree that Reggie looked baffled and had every right to be. I would be hacked off as well.

however, I find it strange, Jeff, that you say he clearly did not see it. How do you know? I am not trying to be an a$$ but you are the one that generally makes the argument that unless you talked to him about the play or what he saw you can't pass judgement You are not him and you have not talked with him about what he saw. So what makes this particular scenario different? Serious question and not trying to troll at all.

again, I would never have put air in my whistle but it is possible that there was slight inadvertent contact that caused collins foot to go backwards enough that at that speed it caused him to clip his other foot and go down. I am not sure as replay does not completely rule that possibility out imo.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

agree that Reggie looked baffled and had every right to be. I would be hacked off as well.

however, I find it strange, Jeff, that you say he clearly did not see it. How do you know? I am not trying to be an a$$ but you are the one that generally makes the argument that unless you talked to him about the play or what he saw you can't pass judgement You are not him and you have not talked with him about what he saw. So what makes this particular scenario different? Serious question and not trying to troll at all.

The Kansas player was a step or two ahead of the MSU player. He clearly did not see what happen, he had to guess. When I saw it live, it looked to me like he fell on his own. I am not sure why you claim he could have seen. It was right in front of Reggie and he passed on the play. It looked like Reggie was contemplating calling a BC violation if the player fell on or over the line.

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

again, I would never have put air in my whistle but it is possible that there was slight inadvertent contact that caused collins foot to go backwards enough that at that speed it caused him to clip his other foot and go down. I am not sure as replay does not completely rule that possibility out imo.

I do not know what the Lead could have seen. It looked like he thought there was contact and there clearly was not.

Peace

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The Kansas player was a step or two ahead of the MSU player. He clearly did not see what happen, he had to guess. When I saw it live, it looked to me like he fell on his own. I am not sure why you claim he could have seen. It was right in front of Reggie and he passed on the play. It looked like Reggie was contemplating calling a BC violation if the player fell on or over the line.



I do not know what the Lead could have seen. It looked like he thought there was contact and there clearly was not.

Peace

I never claimed he did see it. I just find your statements that, you know for a fact that he did not see it, to be incongruent with your typical position.

As I have said I did not like the call at all, and I think the trail has every right to be hacked.

Also, box score on USA today does not list Greenwood at all. They have Luckie, Simmons and Stephens. Was it Greenwood after all?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

I never claimed he did see it. I just find your statements that, you know for a fact that he did not see it, to be incongruent with your typical position.

As I have said I did not like the call at all, and I think the trail has every right to be hacked.

Also, box score on USA today does not list Greenwood at all. They have Luckie, Simmons and Stephens. Was it Greenwood after all?

It looked like Greenwood to me, but the camera angle was so far it was hard to tell on that floor who was working.

Then again it is one call out of a long game. I think the Trail had a better look at the play and that is why Tony started this thread. I said the very same thing in the chat room. And I do not buy the contact before argument, because the Kansas player got away from whatever contact there was. The Kansas player just tripped himself. And this was caused in my opinion because it was so far away from the Lead. The contact if any happened. The contact took outside of the 3 point line. That is a long way to go for the Lead. I would have rather seen a call from the Center.

Peace