Notable absences (NCAA officials)
 

Here is a list of officials who were not among the 96 chosen according to my quick review.

- Ted Hilary
- Reggie Greenwood
- Sean Hull
- Bernard clinton
- Zelton Steed
- Donnee Gray
- Paul Faia
- Ray Natili
- Bert Smith
- Jeff Nichols
PS. According to one boxscore, one official was Roger Davis but I assume that was Roger Ayers

Does this mean they won't get any future Tourney games this yr?

Roger was the alternate for the Ohio State/Sienna game last night.

This Roger "Davis" was also in Dayton earlier in the day. So it's got to be Ayers.

I watched Ted Hillary in the OSU-Purdue game last Sunday. He really struggled to get up and down the floor.

Proof that you should smell the roses. D'think he thought last year would be his last year doing the tournament?

You Accidently Forgot At Least One ...
 

Fixed it for you. I'm available after 5:00 p.m. on workdays, and at all times on weekends.

Roger who? Davis or Ayers?

Both FoxSports and ESPN list Roger Davis on the ETSU/Pitt game.

Yes. The officials for the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 come from the original 96 who worked the 1st round games.

Next week each region will have 9 officials working. 3 separate officials for each game: regional semi-final, regional semi-final, regional final. That means 36 officials will work next week and of those 9 will move on to work the National Semi's and Final.

Donnee Gray may have hurt his knee and shut it down for the tourney.

Glad to see that Hilary is not working...he can't run at all.

Thanks for the insight.

Guess the officials have their own kind of bracket going to see who moves on..... ;)

Donnee hasn't been running well all season. I think his limp is still from last year's injury.

He looks like he needs a new knee. Why he continues to get as much work as he does in as bad of condition as he's been in all of this year (and last year) is beyond me.

I do not understand why commissioners and assignors cannot use fresh faces. There are highly qualified people who could actually move who miss out on a shot here.

Of course, this is the same at the HS level, where I see the same faces on TV every single year at our state tournament when there are hundreds of qualified people wondering if they will ever get their shot. This year, I didn't even watch.

Also Interesting
 

I think the list of names that ended their tournament after the first round is also interesting - most notably Ed Hightower. Maybe the theatrics finally bit him. If that's the case though, you have to wonder how Teddy V managed to get a second round game though.

How do you know that one particular official is done for the tournament?

That leads to my question. Are officials who only worked the 1st round still in consideration for the Sweet 16/Elite 8?

not working the 2nd round does not prevent you from moving on in the tourney. Stats from last year to come......

My assumption was that if you didn't advance from Round 1 to Round 2 you were done. Is that not the case?

There is no advancement from Rd 1 to Rd 2. The officials know going into the 1st weekend whether or not they will be working 1 round or 2.

4 officials in the 2008 tourney worked the 2nd weekend but only received a first round game. They were: Kelly Self, Rick Hartzell, Gerry Pollard, and Bert Smith.

All 4 worked the Sweet 16 round and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

In 2007 there were 2 and in 2006 there were 3. They all worked the Sweet 16 and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

Do you guys assume that the highest rated officials from the first weekend work the Elite 8 games? Because that would be interesting to see the percentage of guys who work in the final four from the Sweet 16 round.

According to my sources, getting only 1 game in the first round of the 64 does not preclude an official to advance to the Sweet 16. Sometimes the 2nd game can hurt an official if they grade out badly during the 2nd round game and thus don't advance to the Sweet 16 round.

The Sweet 16 round is assigned to 9 officials per site. They are told on Monday (today) which game they will work; a Sweet 16 (Thurs or Fri) game or Elite 8 (Sat or Sun). One (or two) of the officials on the Elite 8 game will be the alternate for the crews on the Sweet 16 game.

Of course this was the case last year with Hank Nichols. How John Adams will do it this year is entirely up to him.

The true notable absences are the big name guys who usually get 2 games who didn't this year. That's a pretty big message from a new assignor. Hightower, Tim Higgins, Mike Kitts etc.

You need to realize that officials are informed if they are working one game or two for the weekend. Then no matter how many games you worked, you may or may not advance. I believe those people are informed today if they are working this coming weekend. By this list we have no idea who is going to work further or not work.

Peace

I think Valentine is in a different class than the others TODAY. Teddy is theatrical, yes, but he is a damned solid (and still fairly young) official who runs the floor well and isn't afraid to make a nutcutter call when needed.

(The one I saw this past weekend was when he called a throwin violation (and an obvious one, too) as the C when the thrower-in ran the line when he wasn't entitled to and the official administering the throw-in didn't realize it or didn't see it. Deer in the headlights look on the administering official's face was pretty obvious, but he went with what Teddy had right away.)

Ted seems to be in much better shape than he was 5+ years ago, too.

Teddy V. has worked the Final Four is the past couple of years.

So did Hightower. Last year too, I believe.

Not just the Final Four, the National Championship game as the Referee (they do not just give that to anyone) ;)

Peace

I'm curious to know why people criticize Hightower and Valentine for their "theatrics", but nobody says anything about David Hall's or Scott Thornley's theatrics. Plus, what Hightower and Valentine do is not needed, but they aren't always doing things to put themselves in worst positions to referee the game. I think there is a big diefference between putting some extra flavor on what you do and jumping around until you are out of position.

Why do officials bend over and put their hands on their knees? Totally useless and it looks bad.

Yes, it looks odd. I wouldn't say bad, since often a ball bounces around like a pinball - the hands on the knees shows you're on top of it.

If one thinks it looks bad, it's nowhere near as worse than making a show out of a simple out of bounds call, and then getting the call wrong. :cool:

I agree.

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Mizzou cheerleaders seemed intrigued by Ed. :eek:

What are the chances of a team playing Saturday had 2 of the 3 officials for their game that they had on Thursday?

Steven Skiles and Mike Eades were on the crews for both of Gonzaga's games. Does that seem odd?

The only problem is those are not the Mizzou cheerleader. :D

Peace

M is for Moron, that's good enough for me... :D

Oops, my bad, those must be the Dancing Wolverines.

Are you serious? If so, that would be fake hustle.

quick trivia question:

there are two NCAA men's basketball officials that have worked 3 games in the tournament so far at the same location and on 3 different days. can you name them?

Mike Sanzere( spelling?)

Mike Roberts, Mike Sanzere

Mike Sanzere worked the play in game in Dayton.

Or at least by Ed's @$$.

YOU, are CORRECT sir!

Both worked the play-in game, 1st round game, and 2nd round game in Dayton.

Does anyone know the type and name brand of his shoes?

So much for the Mike Kitts rumors. :rolleyes:

I believe that he was referring to the FIRST weekend, not necessarily that he wouldn't advance to the 2nd weekend.

At least that is the way that I took the comment.

as I posted earlier there is past practice of a small number of officials advancing to the 2nd weekend after only working the first round. Good for Mike Kitts, maybe he responded with a good first round game, but I still say that those veteran officials only getting a first round game is a big message from Adams.

His first round game was the double OT game between Ohio State and Sienna. I wondered if that was any factor in not working the second round, but from the discussion here, it seems that second round assigments are already made prior to first round games even being played.

I would think that for each round of the tournament you would want your best officials working. If someone can be selected to work the second weekend, but not in the second round, doesn't that imply that the best aren't necessarily working the second round?

I watched Valentine in person last night in Glendale in the Mizzou Memphis. Very solid game. Tough game, too. Both teams were essentially driving in the paint all game long. There were two technicals, and they needed two video reviews. I think Valentine may have had 5 of the first 6 calls of the game -- five fouls and a violation. Very demonstrative to start, but then he settled down. I think those guys were probably a bit winded by the second half. That game needed an athletic crew. I bet there were 80 free throws shot in that game.

Interesting watching games in a football stadium. They have massive screens. It looked like right before Calipari got whacked in the second half, he said, "fu*k you, I don't care if you throw me out. Fu*k you." I was surprised he got the second one out.

The crew before them in the CT/Purdue game didn't have the best night. Solid, but they kicked a few. Calling a game in an environment where there is a 200 foot screen showing replays of BI call seems like a pretty tough gig.

EDIT: Sorry -- this was meant as a response to the Valentine post above, which I neglected to quote.

Or it could mean that someone who worked only a 1st round game had an excellent game.

Who called the T on Calipari?

So no Jim Burr nor Ed Hightower past the 1st weekend.

Any other big dawgs who didn't advance that usually do?

Dave Libbey and Tim Higgins.