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Nevadaref Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:04pm

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Lonnie Dixon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lonnie Dixon

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<!-- start content --> Lonnie Dixon is a NCAA Division I men’s basketball official, working in the Mountain West Conference, Big 12 Conference, Sun Belt Conference, and several other conferences.

[edit] Controversy

Dixon was suspended by the Mountain West Conference in February 2004 for "inadvertently" blowing his whistle during a BYU/New Mexico basketball game, but did not admit to it during the game. The whistle caused BYU player Mark Bigelow to believe play was stopped and stepped on the court from the bench. Bigelow was called for a technical foul, and New Mexico eventually beat BYU 65-63. Dixon was not allowed to call his next 2 games, as well as the Mountain West Conference Tournament.

In 1998, Dixon failed to blow his whistle on what University of Utah fans thought were obvious foul calls against Utah point guard Andre Miller in the final 90 seconds of a 77-74 loss, also at New Mexico.

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youngump Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 586318)
Lonnie Dixon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lonnie Dixon

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jump to: navigation, search
<!-- start content --> Lonnie Dixon is a NCAA Division I men’s basketball official, working in the Mountain West Conference, Big 12 Conference, Sun Belt Conference, and several other conferences.

[edit] Controversy

Dixon was suspended by the Mountain West Conference in February 2004 for "inadvertently" blowing his whistle during a BYU/New Mexico basketball game, but did not admit to it during the game. The whistle caused BYU player Mark Bigelow to believe play was stopped and stepped on the court from the bench. Bigelow was called for a technical foul, and New Mexico eventually beat BYU 65-63. Dixon was not allowed to call his next 2 games, as well as the Mountain West Conference Tournament.

In 1998, Dixon failed to blow his whistle on what University of Utah fans thought were obvious foul calls against Utah point guard Andre Miller in the final 90 seconds of a 77-74 loss, also at New Mexico.

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And the problem you have with this is?

BktBallRef Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 586318)
In 1998, Dixon failed to blow his whistle on what University of Utah fans thought were obvious foul calls against Utah point guard Andre Miller in the final 90 seconds of a 77-74 loss, also at New Mexico.

It doesn't say that anymore. :)

Adam Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:54pm

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 586322)
And the problem you have with this is?

For me, it's this part....
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 586318)
In 1998, Dixon failed to blow his whistle on what University of Utah fans thought were obvious foul calls against Utah point guard Andre Miller in the final 90 seconds of a 77-74 loss, also at New Mexico.

I think this part is hilarious. Did anyone poll the NM fans about the "obvious foul calls?"

Nevadaref Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:54pm

I just think that it is amusing that the only entries for him are negative, and mostly focus on his lack of integrity with the whistle incident in that BYU game.

Adam Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:56pm

Nevada, are you licensed for that bus you're driving?

The man made a mistake, paid for it, and you get a kick out of the fact that Utah fans think he may as well be wearing a Lobo uniform?

Nevadaref Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:01am

No, I don't think that he just made a mistake. That would be the case if he had simply blown an inadvertant whistle and said, "Sorry, guys, my fault."

But he flat lied about it and let a kid get penalized because he wasn't man enough to own up to it. He let someone else take the blame for his screw up. That's just plain wrong. IMO he shouldn't be working D1 basketball anymore. There is no place for individuals with questionable ethics at that level.

DonInKansas Sun Mar 08, 2009 07:34am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 586329)
There is no place for individuals with questionable ethics at any level.

Fixed that for ya.

Adam Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:21am

It's just that this whole thread is rather gratuitous.

derwil Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:31am

5 years ago..........
 
What brought this on Nevada? Maybe I'm missing something that happened as I've been living "under a rock" this week.

The event happened in 2004. If conference assignors are still giving him games then poo poo on them. I'm just not sure why your beating a dead horse.................

JugglingReferee Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:03am

What's the point of this thread?

JugglingReferee Sun Mar 08, 2009 02:09pm

I wonder if Lonnie Dixon sold Nevada a used car that turned out to be a lemon, and this is NV's way to blaspheme Lonnie's name. :cool:

Ref Ump Welsch Sun Mar 08, 2009 02:52pm

Why would ANYONE on this board even read Wikipedia??? It's a pariah in the education community, because it's not considered a reliable source of information. It's only as good as what everyone puts on it; much of it is false information. I can't believe anyone on this board wanted to quote it as to our fellow brothers and sisters of the stripes! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! :mad:

BillyMac Sun Mar 08, 2009 03:14pm

Good Place To Start, But Not To Finish ...
 
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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 586430)
Why would ANYONE on this board even read Wikipedia??? It's a pariah in the education community, because it's not considered a reliable source of information. It's only as good as what everyone puts on it; much of it is false information. I can't believe anyone on this board wanted to quote it as to our fellow brothers and sisters of the stripes!

Speaking as a retired teacher, who is now working as a chemist, and who is quite familiar with research reliability, some of what you state is correct, but Wikipedia is a good place to start research, but, like any research, followup research, as in other, additional sources, is always required.

And, Wikipedia might not be as unreliable as you may think: Reliability of Wikipedia: Information from Answers.com

Adam Sun Mar 08, 2009 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 586329)
No, I don't think that he just made a mistake. That would be the case if he had simply blown an inadvertant whistle and said, "Sorry, guys, my fault."

But he flat lied about it and let a kid get penalized because he wasn't man enough to own up to it. He let someone else take the blame for his screw up. That's just plain wrong. IMO he shouldn't be working D1 basketball anymore. There is no place for individuals with questionable ethics at that level.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 586383)
It's just that this whole thread is rather gratuitous.

I wanted to add something.

Nevada, is what Dixon did some sort of unpardonable sin from which no official is capable of learning? Is this one issue bad enough that a) it should be a career ender; and b) it deserves calling his entire career into question?

It's not like he's Donaghy, FCOL.

Nevadaref Sun Mar 08, 2009 09:51pm

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Originally Posted by derwil (Post 586384)
What brought this on Nevada? Maybe I'm missing something that happened as I've been living "under a rock" this week.

He was working the NV @ Boise St WAC confernce game last night. A buddy of mine was watching it with me. The BYU incident came up in our conversation and he said, "No way. It can't be the same guy. There is no way that he would still be calling D1." So we turned on a computer and he did a search. The wikipedia entry was the first result, much to my amusement of course.

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Originally Posted by derwil (Post 586384)
The event happened in 2004. If conference assignors are still giving him games then poo poo on them.

That's the way that I feel. Frankly I'm surprised by it.


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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 586460)
I wanted to add something.

Nevada, is what Dixon did some sort of unpardonable sin from which no official is capable of learning? Is this one issue bad enough that a) it should be a career ender; and b) it deserves calling his entire career into question?

It's not like he's Donaghy, FCOL.

I guess that is up to each person's individual opinion. Obviously, some conference assignors don't believe that it is. I just have a much stronger opinion when it comes to integrity issues with officials. If you were a coach or a partner would you be able to trust him when he tells you something?

It's true that he didn't commit a federal crime, but he certainly didn't make an honest mistake either.

Don't know if you recall, but he had the chance even after the game to admit to his whistle in the investigation by the MWC and yet he maintained that he didn't blow it. It wasn't until a local TV station produced film from a courtside camera WITH THE AUDIO which had captured him blowing his whistle that the lying stopped.

JRutledge Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:09pm

To the moderators--Forgive me while I am confused what is right or wrong.
 
Let me get this straight. We have an individual that rips an official by name publicly, but any comment about how ridiculous the content of this thread is out of bounds?

I thought I read a moderator say that it was out of bounds to rip officials on this site, but it is allowed to have an individual rip an official in this instance and no one can say anything about it? Now I normally back the moderators here big time, but forgive me if I am a little puzzled by what is acceptable and what is not. This thread serves no purpose but to publicly rip an official based on information that none of us know about other than second hand knowledge. This situation was between the supervisor and the official. And if the supervisor had a problem with what took place, they would not be working games right now. And it is OK to rip that official here because someone has a stick up their behind about it?

Peace

rockyroad Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 586492)
Let me get this straight. We have an individual that rips an official by name publicly, but any comment about how ridiculous the content of this thread is out of bounds?

I thought I read a moderator say that it was out of bounds to rip officials on this site, but it is allowed to have an individual rip an official in this instance and no one can say anything about it? Now I normally back the moderators here big time, but forgive me if I am a little puzzled by what is acceptable and what is not. This thread serves no purpose but to publicly rip an official based on information that none of us know about other than second hand knowledge. This situation was between the supervisor and the official. And if the supervisor had a problem with what took place, they would not be working games right now. And it is OK to rip that official here because someone has a stick up their behind about it?

Peace

Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, does it??

Nevadaref Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:15pm

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JugglingReferee Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:48am

Nevada,

Please remove this thread.

Respectfully,

JugglingReferee

Ref Ump Welsch Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:55am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 586438)
Speaking as a retired teacher, who is now working as a chemist, and who is quite familiar with research reliability, some of what you state is correct, but Wikipedia is a good place to start research, but, like any research, followup research, as in other, additional sources, is always required.

And, Wikipedia might not be as unreliable as you may think: Reliability of Wikipedia: Information from Answers.com

Be careful where you tread. I know many colleges have blocked Wikipedia, because they don't accept it's reliability level. The college where I teach at, we have to actually go onto Wikipedia when a student cites it, and decide for ourselves the reliability of the actual citation. More often than not, in my field (Sign Language Interpreting), the Wikipedia information is either skewed or incomplete, so the students end up hurting themselves using Wikipedia. That's why I admonished the OP for citing Wikipedia, because the tone of the Wikipedia entry was obviously so anti-Dixon that it had to have come straight from a hating fan, therefore worthless to be cited on this website.

bob jenkins Mon Mar 09, 2009 08:03am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 586492)
Let me get this straight. We have an individual that rips an official by name publicly, but any comment about how ridiculous the content of this thread is out of bounds?

Your history with certain posters (NevadaRef for one) means that anything that could be interpreted as a personal attack on those posters will be interpreted that way and deleted (and, to be clear, it also works in reverese and the same types of posts from, for example, NevadaRef have been deleted).

I do not have the post you made in this thread, but it wasn't along the lines of "the content of this thread is ridiculous."

When a post gets deleted, other posts that quote the deleted post also get deleted. Sometimes that means an otherwise-valid post is deleted.

And, while I find the original post (and some of the follow-up posts) in this thread to be in poor taste, and my opinion of the OP has gone down because of them, I am not sure that the post violates the forum standards (nor, to be clear, am I sure that it meets the standards). So, for now, I've chosen to let it remain. Other moderators may take a different approach.

Brad Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:35am

I think that we've just about exhausted this topic.

Nevada -- starting this thread really served no good purpose.


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