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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 11:33am
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Looks like backcourt violation to me...?

NJ HS boys 1st round playoff. The play is in the first 10 seconds of the video clip, right off the opening tip.

Is there some reason why this isn't a backcourt violation? Perhaps the officials just missed it (not to bash them, just asking)... I confess to having the occasional brain freeze off the opening tip as well- you get a state tournament game and all you want is for the game to start and the players go the right way and BAM, something weird happens that freezes you.

Here's the link. It's an 8 minute or so highlight video, so the whole thing might take a few minutes to load, but the play is right at the beginning.

Cape May County Gazette Sports :: South Jersey Sports: Wildwood-Paulsboro video highlights
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 11:40am
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Is there some reason why this isn't a backcourt violation?
1) The official judged that the player in white didn't have PC before he "threw the pass."

2) The official judged that the player in the red jersey touched the ball.

3) The officials missed it.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 11:43am
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My opinion is that this was a missed call. I paused the video at 0:05 and W32 clearly has two hands on the ball, and holding it, with his momentum carrying him OB. W32 clearly made a behind-the-back pass to save the ball from going OB, and the ball travelled to White's backcourt. When W12 touched the ball, a violation should have been called. Just like you said, these violations near the jump ball are tougher to nab.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 12:24pm
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I don't think player control was established so I've got no call on this.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 12:29pm
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I don't think player control was established so I've got no call on this.
Both hands on the ball looks to me like holding it.

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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 12:37pm
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I don't ever see both hands (but only watched it once to simulate an in game experience haha) I saw batting the ball around and fumbling around and a nifty recovery for the save behind the back...
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 12:43pm
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1) The official judged that the player in white didn't have PC before he "threw the pass."

2) The official judged that the player in the red jersey touched the ball.

3) The officials missed it.

3) The officials missed it.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 01:16pm
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 03:40pm
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Good no call, noboday ever had possession
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 03:52pm
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On first glance, it's a violation. On second view, it's a violation. U got caught off guard, I think.
He held it (even if briefly) before throwing it.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 04:46pm
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On first glance, it's a violation. On second view, it's a violation. U got caught off guard, I think.
He held it (even if briefly) before throwing it.

Yeah, but would you still call it that way if the player was wearing a long-sleeved shirt under his jersey?? Huh?? Would ya???
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 05:07pm
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If he had a medical waiver signed in triplicate, notarized and validated by the governor.
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If he had a medical waiver signed in triplicate, notarized and validated by the governor.
What if it was in California and it was signed by the Governator???
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 05:42pm
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Obvious BC

Come on Y'all! He Grabbed the ball one hand, brought it to his other hand, Held the ball...stayed in bounds, then made a direct pass to his teammate. The call was missed. Obvious BC.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2009, 06:52pm
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obvious? Ehh, no. Sure it is a bc but lots of refs at any level would have missed this call especially since it was coming off the jump.
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