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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 09:28am
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You did not have to wait for the replay to see this one!

YouTube - Duke's Scheyer Mugged; Haters Only See Traveling
There was only 2 travels in that video, I played it back over and over. But, there should have been a 5 second closely guarded violation.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 09:57am
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There was only 2 travels in that video, I played it back over and over. But, there should have been a 5 second closely guarded violation.
If I looked at the video correctly, Duke was in their backcourt when it happend. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 10:00am
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Ops, you are right...my mistake. I do women's basketball, so my mind is on that side of the game. But, he did travel......
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No problem, you're forgiven! But I do agree, this was travelling. Heck, he even traveled into the trap!
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 11:11am
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Difficult play to referee. Had to referee two defensive players both swiping at the ball.

The Duke hating is ridiculous - I could go back in that game and give you a few examples where you could make the case the other way. But of course, ESPN just focuses its attention on when Duke gets the call. Same thing happened the other night at Maryland.

Anyways, Duke is a well coached fundamentally sound team. They play great help defense. They have a great spread on offense. They have a variety of different types of players. Good teams get close calls, because most of the time the close call SHOULD go there way because they do that little bit extra that the other team doesn't.

Anyone else with me on this?
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 11:14am
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Difficult play to referee. Had to referee two defensive players both swiping at the ball.

The Duke hating is ridiculous - I could go back in that game and give you a few examples where you could make the case the other way. But of course, ESPN just focuses its attention on when Duke gets the call. Same thing happened the other night at Maryland.

Anyways, Duke is a well coached fundamentally sound team. They play great help defense. They have a great spread on offense. They have a variety of different types of players. Good teams get close calls, because most of the time the close call SHOULD go there way because they do that little bit extra that the other team doesn't.

Anyone else with me on this?
No doubt that Coach K is one of the best in the game. Duke will be a perennial title contender under him.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 11:17am
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I have to disagree!

I think Duke gets more than their fair share of calls.

If you've every watched Shewsiwhewski berate officials, his lips constantly appear to use the "f" word. It always happens whenever one of his boys gets ruffed up a little. You can bet the next 10 calls will go in favor of them.

And to think ESPN showed one time this season the "BIAS that is DUKE" is amazing....
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 11:26am
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I have to agree with Sallender, when they are winning everything is all good, but when the games is tight and Coack K tries to work his magic and starts working the officials. IMO, the best way to referee this play is from the baseline, where ther camera was. So many times I have seen trail officials even or ahead of the play. Thats one thing I have been working on this year is trailing the play so I can pick these types of violations.
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There was only 2 travels in that video, I played it back over and over. But, there should have been a 5 second closely guarded violation.
Not possible. After 1 travel, the ball would be dead, and the player could walk all he wanted.

Since the official in the video did not call a travel, there were in fact 0 travels in the video.
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Not possible. After 1 travel, the ball would be dead, and the player could walk all he wanted.

Since the official in the video did not call a travel, there were in fact 0 travels in the video.
It is possible, since he missed the first travel, then a second one occurred, which in fact was missed as well. 1+1=2...
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