division line bounce pass
 

NFHS

A1 dribbles the ball across the division line, picks up his dribble and is immediately double teamed by B1 and B2. While maintaining front court status but under heavy pressure, A1 steps back and while falling bounces a pass in the backcourt to A2 who has front court status. At what point is this a backcourt violation? When the ball touches in the backcourt or when A2 receives the bounce pass?

When A2 receives the pass. If a player for B can steal the pass, it wouldn't be a violation at all.

There is no situation where the ball touching the backcourt is a violation.

9-9 clearly says something like "A player shall not be the first to touch the ball ..."

I will add that some have opined that the play you describe is not a violation at all.

It's a BC violation when A2 touches the pass. (9-9-1)

By mentioning this opinion, do you intend to legitimize it? You must be aware that your standing in the forum might lead people to think so.

MByron:

While I can not speak for Bob, I have the feeling and it just a feeling, that he made the comment to get people to discuss and/or study the backcourt rule in more depth. Most people who know me on this Forum would tell you that they would probably expect the same comment from me because I like to get the ball rolling on discussions, to stir the pot, so to speak. Think about it, study the rule in depth and I think you will see what I mean.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I just like to rile people up sometimes, :D.

Just the opposite.

Batteries not included.
 

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Please stop using those old fashioned 19th century phrases, like "rile". It gives away your age. You might as well have your birth certificate glued to your forehead. Youngsters, like me, would say, "I just like to yank their chain sometimes".

Bob is making reference to these posts:

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...4&postcount=13

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...4&postcount=67

I think you are incorrect. A1 with FC status dribbling, ball with front court status. A1, dribbling along the division line, dribbles the ball in the backcourt while standing in the front court.

Is that not an immediate violation?

Nope. It becomes a violation when the dribble is touched again by A1 after having bounced in the backcourt.

JAR is right.

This should be handled the same as the dribbler along the sideline stepping oob? Wait to see if it was a pass (whcih could be stolen by the defense)?

Think about it. The two things are nothing alike.