Did this last weekend. Couple of trips down the court in the first quarter, told a player to knock off the hand check. Third trip down the court, same hand check. Tweet! No more hand check.

There is no correct answer to this question. You need to be both a "good play caller" as well as a "good game manager." This is somewhat of a trick question- plus I have to admit, I was in the same meeting the person who started the original thread was in and had insight to the "answer." You know what they say...information is power!

No, there isn't. But everyone has an opinion on it! :)

I have not checked in on ths thread, bcause I was waiting to see how crew "managed" the discussion, since I think his "call" in asking the question was wrong.

I am reminded of a time when my daughter was being particularly difficult and troublesome and I asked the counselor I was seeing which was more important, "Discipline or love?" She said, "It's all important." That's literally, word for word, all she said. That was five years ago and I'm still chewing over it with my daughter 3000 miles away, and three different children being difficult.

I think it fits here. The people at the top like Eli, Drake, and others who do the best basketball in the world, have it all. You simply can't succeed without all the above, can you?

The bottom line is that GAME MANAGEMENT skills are what seperate a "Good" official from a "Great" official.

Anyone can call a game. Few can manage a game.

Perhaps; but not just anyone can call a game well. It's not as simple a thing as you make it sound. As this entire thread makes clear, the issue is not as cut-and-dried as you make it seem.

Chuck

[ As this entire thread makes clear, the issue is not as cut-and-dried as you make it seem.

Chuck [/B][/QUOTE

And it never will be...I work for two different collegiate supervisors...one puts huge importance on calling the game correctly, the other stresses the game management side...when I am in gym A, I know I better do things one way, but when in gym B, I know I better do things this other way...be as good as possible at both aspects of the game, and do what your supervisors direct you to do...

I have to agree with Rockyroad...you call the game the way the way your area wants it to be called, it is up to the assignor what he wants....a game where all the calls were made....or whether the game was managed well. To me a great official is one that is able to adapt to any situation that he/she is thrown into!

AK ref SE

My opinion!

I think it fits here. The people at the top like Eli, Drake, and others who do the best basketball in the world, have it all.

Well stated, Juulie. I prefer to work with folks who have both, and my goal is to have both. I believe it is compromising to say you need one more than the other.

Crew
I was at Proactive Camp with you. The comments here are about as varied as at camp. It can be blamed on me since Shawn & I started this discussion during a tape review. I thought Coach Odom gave the best response.....he kept changing his mind the more he thought about it. I was one of the majority. While I believe getting the play right is important, how many times have we heard in camps and clinics that all coaches want is to manage the game? If you want to discuss things in detail contact me a [email protected]

Have a good summer.

So, Don is the blame for all of this! ;)

Actually, this is an ongoing discussion that will probably never end. It seems to me that there are actually 3 options. Either you wnat to be a grat manager, a great caller, or you want to be both. I have to agree with others who have said that they want to have both. How could anyone disagree with that? :confused:

One thing about crew, he can also generate discussion! :p

WRONG!! WRONG!! WRONG!! There is only one correct way to call the game, that is how the rules and and casebook plays are written and interpreted by the rules committee. I am tired of coaches and assigners deciding how rules are to be interpreted and applied. This is how we get into all of these long winded discussions about advantage/disadvantage and other nonsense.

Sigh.

Mark, you may be tired of it, but that's life. It's Darwinism as applied to officiating. If the NFHS had assigning authority, we'd all be happy as clams to do it exactly as the rulebook lays it out. But if I want to get games (and keep getting them), I have to officiate the way my assignor tells me to. Otherwise, he'll stop giving me games. That's just the way it works. I'm sorry you're tired of it, Mr. Quixote; maybe it's time to find a new windmill. ;)

Chuck

Play caller
 

If you're not getting them right, you better be the best game manager of all time. I think you can learn management as you mature, if you aren't working your angles correctly you will struggle. Hey, if you are getting them right, you don't have that much to manage!