Post-game Ejection Question
 

Speaking NFHS

Can an offical eject a player without calling a technical foul if the event happens after the final buzzer?

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[sarcasm] I also learned that if a parish priest sits on his CYO's team bench and behaves in an unsporting manner, he is allowed at least three warnings from the officials before anything happens, and he can fraternize with the officials at halftime :confused: [/sarcasm]

A priest actually sitting with his CYO team???? Wow, he either has cajoles or doesn't mind bearing the embarrassment!!! :D

Here's my sitch: Really, really ugly GJV game with a really bad visiting team taking out their entire season's frustrations on an even worse team. T'd one visiting coach, tossed some visitor spectators, home coach ends up with only four players because others had to leave to go to jobs or to "take care of sick mom at home". I mean this team was way, way bad. Visitors see their big chance and are really unsportsmanlike about rubbing it in. End of the game, visitor player holding the ball, i reach for her to give it to me, so I can leave it at the table (to help out the table person who's in a wheelchair) visitor player starts to reach it to me, and then flips it across the gym.

If I had T'd her, or better given her a flagrant T, she could not have played varsity that day, and would have had to pay other penance. Even though it would not have affected that game, she would have been punished for her actions and bad attitude, and might have learned a lesson.

Moral to the story, T when called-for regardless of the time of the infraction.

Yeah, but he doesn't use them. :D

Those Benedectine Monks Really Know How To Curse ...
 

One of our former board members ejected a priest who was sitting on the end of the Saint Anselm (New Hampshire) bench complaining about the calls. And last week we had a board member toss a police officer, who was there for crowd control, who decided to complain about calls. It's true. I can't make this stuff up.

I presume the Officer had a child playing.

From a taxpayer's perspective, the officer should be required to surrender his crowd control earnings. He failed to do his job. :(

He did this the first time we played this team, and I thought maybe he was an assistant coach. This was why I couldn't figure out why the officials were chatting with him at half time. I was thinking "why are officials talking to an assistant coach at halftime after they already gave him three warnings?" :confused:

So I decided to stretch my legs and see what was going on. It was then I learned he was just the pastor and not an assistant. *shrugs* I'm still not not sure why officials would allow someone who really shouldn't be on the bench (based on my interpretation of NFHS 1-13-1 and 4-34-2) behave in a way that earned him three separate warnings. Oh well, water under the bridge now.

Maybe that's exactly the reason they didn't T him: they didn't want to penalize the team for someone's behavior who shouldn't be there to begin with.

As for the ejction, yes, it should be a flagrant T. But who cares? You aren't going to shoot FTs unless it would affect the outcome of the game. The important thing is to report the ejcetion to the scorer in case there are ramifications such as a suspension.

Who escorts a police officer out that is there for crowd control? Himself :confused:

If it is post game, my thoughts are to either call it flagrant or ignore it. There is no penalty at this point for just a T, depending on the score of course, so I say dump them or just ignore it.

Juulie:

I had a similar sitch a few years ago. Visiting coach gets whacked early in the second half. Loses the game by 25 or so. As we are leaving the floor, he intercepts me at the endline and says: "I still think you're a jacka__, and now there's nothing you can do about it". I reply: Coach, you really need to spend more time studying your rulebook." Whistle, whack, his 2nd T, he is now ejected and subject to a two-game suspension. I'd pay $500 for a photo of the look on his face as I put the whistle in my mouth. (Didn't really need the whistle, but the dramatic effect was priceless.) :D

In the sitch you describe, I'd have dumped the young lady. I take a pretty hard line regarding blatant disrespect from players.

I Almost Ejected A Cheerleader Coach ...
 

Well. Not Really. I just titled this post that way to get your attention. Girls varsity game. First timeout, in the first period, is a thirty second timeout, clearly signaled by my partner. Home team cheerleaders begin to come onto the court. Thinking that they mistakenly thought it was a sixty second timeout, I instruct them to get back on the bench. During the intermission between the first, and second, period, I seek out the captain and explain to her how to tell the difference between a thirty (shoulder tap), during which they are not allowed to come out onto the court, and a sixty (arms extended), during which they are allowed to come out onto the court. Cheerleading coach now gets involved in the discussion. She says, "We've been cheering during all timeouts all season long?". I reply, "Then you've been doing it wrong all season long". She was hot, so I didn't toss her.

My books in my bag. What's the citation for cheerleaders and timeouts? I hope that I did it correctly.

would have dumped player in this situation. no need for this at any level. fines/suspensions would be warranted and appropriate from the governing body.

Whistle Versus Automatic Handgun, Who Wins ???
 

Found out more details tonight. Police officer, who was on duty for crowd control, had a son playing. He gave the officials an "earful" during the halftime intermission, and was uninvited from the gym for the second half.

I almost Choked when I saw this thread
 

This happened tonight. Boys Freshman Game.

Home team from a small rural area. Visitors one of TWO frosh teams for a huge parochial power.

Visitors clearly think that they are playing a bunch of slow farmers. Apparently even started their second string. Home team hits two threes to start the game and have a little PG that is too fast for anyone on the "power" team to cover. My partner whacks the visiting HC in the 2Q for excssive whining. I overhear the HC complaining to his ***'t about how he is getting jobbed by these Yahoo refs. Little does he know that I live four blocks from his school.:D

Now advance to end of game. Score is tied with :03 left. Home team inbounds at half court and their SG drains a 30 footer at the buzzer for a huge upset win. I am on the baseline by our lockerroom so my partner is behind me. I am standing in the doorway of the gym when I hear yelling. As my partner comes up looking hacked off, I asked him if that was the coach. He tells me yeah that the coach said we "F---ing Suck". I said, well we haven't left the visual confines of the gym, so lets cost this guy some $$$$. I walked towards the bench while they are gathering up there stuf and advise the coach that I am assessing a second Technical for the outburst and that he is ejected. I told him to enjoy his vacation and the class he will have to take.:D

In Ohio, a coach is automaticaly fined $100 for an ejection on top of his 2 game suspension and must take an on line course on coaching ethics before he can coach again.

The first coach's ejection of my career.

I had a similar experience as a soccer referee. I had taken my Son's team to a tournament near Hopkinsville KY, we are from a suburb Northeast of Nashville TN. I had made arrangements to referee between the games I was coaching. One game I was assigned was the Host club's team vs a TN team from a suburb on the South side of Nashville. The home team was totally outplaying the TN team, soon parents and Coaches began the "Homer" crap. End result was the TN Coach was Dismissed from the technical area. I so, wanted show him and his team parents my TN Drivers License. :p

In Oregon, state law says that if someone is ejected from the facility by a sports official and they refuse to leave, they are trespassing and can be arrested. If it was this guy and he refused to go, I guess he'd have to arrest himself.

Actually, I think I saw Barney Fife do that once.

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Most game administrators want to go home at a reasonable hour. If game doesn't start until the perp leaves, someone will figure it out and get him removed.

True story from a soccer game a couple of years ago.

I'm AR2 (the guy carrying the flag on the fan side) on senior night in rural Kentucky -- not far from Hopkinsville, incidentally. The park is an absolute bandbox; the concession stand is five feet from the touchline. The place is packed, the fans are loud, and the game is physical.

This is two days after Albert Haynesworth's face-stomping incident.

Well, one of the home team's seniors "goes Haynesworth" on an opposing player. Player is tossed, but the crowd goes ballistic -- even more so that usual for this notoriously-belligerent school.

It got so bad we had to toss the PA announcer who was actually complaining about calls into the microphone.

I'm so glad I don't work high school anymore.

I think a penalty for a T on a coach or for an unruly fan should be to wear a really ugly shirt that reads "I am a poo poo head" and to take over his (see below) responsiblity during the cherring festivities.

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Rule 5 SECTION 11 CHARGED TIME-OUT
ART. 2 A single 30-second charged time-out shall not exceed 30 seconds. A warning signal for teams to prepare to be ready to resume play is sounded with 15 seconds remaining. No on-court entertainment should occur during this time.

Would this be the correct citation?