Gave my first ever T last night...

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

For what?

Simulating the end of a period.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

HS has been pretty tame lately.

Men's league last night: blue has the ball with seconds left in Q2. "8... 7... 6... 5..." And then there's a steal by white. "4... 3-2-1." White jacks up what would be described as a 4-point shot.

Tweet. Unsporting.

The old barking dog trick?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Next play out of the time out a player reaches and slaps the are of the defender.

I know you didn't mean "are". Did you mean "arm" or "arse"?

[eemich10]

Originally Posted by richmsn

not only warranted, but in a few years you'll find that this one was easy.

trust me, it was easy!

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by eemich10

I'm a second year official, working with a strong first year. G JV game. Visiting coach lossing by about 18-20 in the 3rd. Complaining about other official not calling any fouls (really not a rough game at all, just sloppy).

He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.

First T.

Warranted?

No brainer. Automatic. Good call.

[bbcoach7]

Originally Posted by eemich10

I'm a second year official, working with a strong first year. G JV game. Visiting coach lossing by about 18-20 in the 3rd. Complaining about other official not calling any fouls (really not a rough game at all, just sloppy).

He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.

First T.

Warranted?

What an idiot. Whack him and ask, "How about now Coach, is that enough or would you like one more?" He wants to be the decider. LOL

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by eemich10

He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.

Last month, I had a coach who didn't like a call. Gave him a brief explanation as I went by.

Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "That's enough, Coach."
Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "I've heard enough, Coach!" (Showing the stop sign.)
Him: "Yeah, I've heard enough, too. And that was horrible!"

Tweet!

After the game, my partner said how much he enjoyed the whole exchange. His favorite part was my two-fingered T signal. He got a kick out of that, for some reason.

So to answer your original question, good T.

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Last month, I had a coach who didn't like a call. Gave him a brief explanation as I went by.

Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "That's enough, Coach."
Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "I've heard enough, Coach!" (Showing the stop sign.)
Him: "Yeah, I've heard enough, too. And that was horrible!"

Tweet!

After the game, my partner said how much he enjoyed the whole exchange. His favorite part was my two-fingered T signal. He got a kick out of that, for some reason.

So to answer your original question, good T.

You are more tolerant than I am.

I really mean it when I say something like "That's enough."

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Berkut

You are more tolerant than I am.

That's possible. I'm pretty comfortable with my tolerance level. I give a few T's a season, but I'm not generally looking for them.

I really mean it when I say something like "That's enough."

I feel like I just got slapped on the wrist or something. For me, "that's enough" does not equal "one more word and it's a T". It's basically a less-than-subtle message to back off. I would rather give the coach a chance to back off than give the T. If he/she decides not to back down, then it'll be clear why they get the T.

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

That's possible. I'm pretty comfortable with my tolerance level. I give a few T's a season, but I'm not generally looking for them.

I hope none of us are looking for them.

I feel like I just got slapped on the wrist or something. For me, "that's enough" does not equal "one more word and it's a T". It's basically a less-than-subtle message to back off. I would rather give the coach a chance to back off than give the T. If he/she decides not to back down, then it'll be clear why they get the T.

I guess for me "That's enough" means just that - enough. Not "That is almost enough, go ahead and repeat yourself one more time but no more!".

I mean, I just GAVE him the chance to back off, didn't I? By saying "Thats enough" rather than just banging him?

I am sure there is more than one "right" answer here, so I don't want to suggest that I am certainly right - but I guess I just don't understand the idea that my job is to try to convince a coach to NOT get himself the T, and provide him more than one opportunity to go back to coaching. I wonder if we don't just encourage the same behavior since they tend to know we don't REALLY mean it when we say "That's enough".

I am relatively new to this (just a few years experience at the JV level), so perhaps as I do this more I will become more tolerant?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Berkut

I hope none of us are looking for them.



I guess for me "That's enough" means just that - enough. Not "That is almost enough, go ahead and repeat yourself one more time but no more!".

I mean, I just GAVE him the chance to back off, didn't I? By saying "Thats enough" rather than just banging him?

I am sure there is more than one "right" answer here, so I don't want to suggest that I am certainly right - but I guess I just don't understand the idea that my job is to try to convince a coach to NOT get himself the T, and provide him more than one opportunity to go back to coaching. I wonder if we don't just encourage the same behavior since they tend to know we don't REALLY mean it when we say "That's enough".

I am relatively new to this (just a few years experience at the JV level), so perhaps as I do this more I will become more tolerant?

No, you'll just find more coaches understand what "enough" means. Or you'll find the right thing to say between "that's enough" and whacking him that really does shut him up. Sometimes people do go to the "that's enough" card a bit too quickly, not saying you or anyone else in this thread does.

[icallfouls]

I am up to 8 T's this year. A bit on the high side for me.

2 - College - 1 ast coach, 1 player
6 - HS - 1 coach, 5 players - includes a double T last night for 2 players squaring up and mouthing off with chest to chest contact, followed by the classic line "you wanna piece of me?"

A few more games to go...

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

t for 2 players squaring up and mouthing off with chest to chest contact, followed by the classic line "you wanna piece of me?"

I hope you gave that one for it's being hackneyed and trite. Sheez, kid, get a little creative here!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

I hope you gave that one for it's being hackneyed and trite. Sheez, kid, get a little creative here!

Hackneyed AND trite? Whoa.

[snorman75]

Congrats on your first T

Now you got to toss a coach

Then a fan

Then a whole crowd

I have done all but one, and surprise it is the coach.

P.S. I have thrown a Grandmother out of the gym, a 70+ too.

P.S.S. whole crowd was in softball, and I made them move outside the outfield fence.