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Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 09:39pm
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It happens. High school, college, and even the NBA. It happens.
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Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 10:01pm
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I just about had one the other night...in fact I should've called it. Had a team running a high post offense all night and the post player & defender were grabbing and pushing and leaning. I had been warning them all night (preventative officiating) but never pulled the trigger. Thinking back on it...all I probably had to do was ring them up for a double foul and it probably would've subsided.
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Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 10:16pm
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Double Foul is an effective game management tool

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I just about had one the other night...in fact I should've called it. Had a team running a high post offense all night and the post player & defender were grabbing and pushing and leaning. I had been warning them all night (preventative officiating) but never pulled the trigger. Thinking back on it...all I probably had to do was ring them up for a double foul and it probably would've subsided.
A double foul gets everyone's attention and cleans up the aggressive "jostling for position." Use it early if players do not heed verbal redirection.
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Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 10:19pm
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A double foul gets everyone's attention and cleans up the aggressive "jostling for position." Use it early if players do not heed verbal redirection.
I agree. Early in the season, and early in the game.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 06:59am
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It happens. High school, college, and even the NBA. It happens.
If you have done due diligents in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 07:23am
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If you have done due diligents in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
Clearly, you haven't done yours when it comes to spelling.
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If you have done due diligence in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
I disagree. It most certainly can happen outside of our control; and where the DF is the correct call. That's part of why it is in the book!

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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 07:33am
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I disagree. It most certainly can happen outside of our control; and where the DF is the correct call. That's part of why it is in the book!

"Never say never, never say always."
Yeah, it's in the book because it does happen, but if you discuss it in pre-game, then it should not happen! If both officials freeze and look first, it should never happen. That's all I'm saying.

And for the NevadaRef, if you want me to start using the dictionary, I will - just 4 U!

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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 07:48am
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If you have done due diligents in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
WOW! I wish my pre-game could control what players do.

How do you do that?? Do you have magical powers?

Next time I will put DUE DILIGENCE (sp) into my pre-game and then everything will be just peachy.



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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 07:59am
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If you have done due diligents in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
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WOW! I wish my pre-game could control what players do.
You guys are talking about different things. Sallender is talking about the "blarge". Forks, it seems to me that you're talking about two knuckleheads who legitimately foul each other.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 08:32am
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You guys are talking about different things. Sallender is talking about the "blarge". Forks, it seems to me that you're talking about two knuckleheads who legitimately foul each other.
Thank you Scrapper! If you talk about it in the pre-game, the blarge should be a distant memory....
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 10:59am
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Thank you Scrapper! If you talk about it in the pre-game, the blarge should be a distant memory....
Talking about something in pre-game doesn't mean someone won't have a brain fart during the game. We could say the same thing about correctable errors.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 11:19am
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 08:04am
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If you have done due diligence (spelling corrected) in pre-game, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
Welcome aboard Sallender!

And now.... we commence in the meat grinder.

How do you pre-game so that two opposing players "NEVER" become aggressive to a point that you need to intervene. As you will notice in my original post I stated verbal redirection was not enough.

I also realize we are actually addressing two versions of a double foul. I agree that a "Blarge" should (but not always) be avoidable, if properly pre-gamed.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 08:36am
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Welcome aboard Sallender!

And now.... we commence in the meat grinder.

How do you pre-game so that two opposing players "NEVER" become aggressive to a point that you need to intervene. As you will notice in my original post I stated verbal redirection was not enough.

I also realize we are actually addressing two versions of a double foul. I agree that a "Blarge" should (but not always) be avoidable, if properly pre-gamed.

I understand your comment aobut two opposing players becoming too aggressive. That should easily be taken care of by either double personals or technicals.

And I'm not sure I want to be the "meat", but instead the "grinder".....
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