technical foul
 

game senario

Team A is loosing and coach is frustrated, probably thinking his team is better. Foul call goes against him. Coach says out loud" this is the worst officiating I've seen"

Who in this group "T" him up? Who would just try to ignore it?

Out loud for all to hear? "T" will be served. No problem. Have a seat coach....

If loud enough for all to hear (and even if it's just the table crew and myself), what's the point ignoring an obvious plea for technical assistance?:cool:

Had this situation recently...
 

BV - Early in 2nd Q, home HC standing, in a dramatic overt manner, "Just because they are ranked (V Team #6 in state) doesn't mean you have to guarantee they will win!"

Whack, sit down coach.

No regrets on my behalf, rest of game continues without incident (from the HC.)

I know that BillyMac will have a good laugh when I say: Maybe, Maybe Not. AND, while nobody will every accuse me of being soft on 'crime', not all naughty bahavior by a HC is an automatic TF. For an example, the correct response if the occured in the first quarter is to tell the HC that he should just wait until the fourth quarter to see how bad the officiating will be then.'

That said, I am off to an ASA Fastpitch Softball Umpires meeting.

Have fun with this one guys.

MTD. Sr.

Not only would I T him up, I would smack him upside the head with a frying pan, tattoo "LOSER" on his forehead and taser him on his cojones. Then, I would eject him and make him crawl out to the parking lot and run himself over with his car.

But hey - that's just me.

And if it prevents....wait for it...SEC, er OT, so much the better.

Second question.

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game. A week or so later, you have the same coach for a game. Do you mention in your pregame that criticising officials is unsportsmanlike, and won't be tolerated or do you just wait to see what happens in the game??????

While you may remember the coach, school, or team, each game they should start with a clean slate - don't hold grudges, it won't serve you well.

IMO, it is not appropriate to bring this up.

Example – had a situation my first yr doing HS where a young, first-yr F coach was upset with us and came into our locker room at the end of the game to tell us what he thought of us. V officials escorted him out. I filed a report. He got his. Told my Assignor if he wanted to remove me from future games at that school I would understand. He didn’t remove me. Backed me all the way.

Went back three weeks later – my antennae were up! Nothing was said. Nothing happened. It turned out to be just another game and a good lesson.

If the comment was directed at me, we got a T. If he's talkin to himself, he's just crazy.

What difference does that make? :confused:

Your premise is flawed.

1st, 99.9999999% of the time this is said, it will be by the losing coach.

2nd, I don't care if the team is getting pounded 100-0, this comment does not go unpenalized.

Several weeks ago, as I arrived at the game site, I found my partner had started the game by himself. No problem. A quick change and off I go. The HC from the home team comes to let me a locker room and tells me that my partner had T'd up the VC after a disputed call (ball rolled on top of the SQUARE backboard then off the side into a defensive players hands. He wanted OOB, my partner had a no call.

What the VC said was, "I guess we just have to bend over the table and take it from you, huh?" :mad:

I told my partner, that the coach should be thanking him, because if I had been on the floor, his {backside} would have been making a swift exit from the gym, and since he didn't have an assistant, his team would've been getting the loss by forfeit too. Thinking about it STILL pi$$es me off. I really wished he wouldn't have started the game without me. :mad:

Another coach who doesn't know there's no such thing as "over the back". I bet he wanted a "reach", too. :rolleyes:

This story was not hypothetical, and the situation occured in a game i officiated. I worked his game tonight, and i took everyones advise and did not confront the coach and make any statements about his commenting on the quality of officiating.

It was the championship for mid schools in our area, so it was a big game for them. I could tell the coach in question was wired up, but I made small talk to let him know that I was thinking about this game and not last Saturday.

toward the end of the first quarter, a shooting foul was called on the OTHER team. That coach was complaining that his guy didn't foul. The coach in question walked from his bench, past the scoreres table, to the other teams bench, to tell the coach that the officiating was horrible. I could hear him from the foul line.

It was at that point that i introduced the coach to his chair with a "T".

Now the problem.... the guuy I was working with was a first year guy, that was doing a great job, but He just couldn't have my back. The coach in question refused to sit down, and probably stood up 40% of the time after the "T". I kept telling my partner that HE need to back me up and tell the coach to sit down, that I didn't want to give the second "T". He just couldn't do it, so I was left with the chioice of giving two "T" to a coach or let him slide.

I decide to let it slide as the coach remained calm for the rest of the game.

the coach in question told me he is filing a formal complaint against me, as I gave him a "T" without giving a warning. He said that was A blatant violation of the rules!!!!

I reallly enjoyed the game as it went to overtime and the visitors won by 2 points.

Don't think you CANNOT give the SECOND T. If its warranted, light 'em up. Especially if your partner is incapacitated to do so.

If you were still within the confines of the court and had not yet approved the score, you should have rung him up then. :)

You're kidding, right? :eek:

Just T him up. The qtr.&score don't matter. Next game is a new game. If you take care of business the right way in the first game, the guy now knows what to expect from you if he acts up in the next game.

You should have taken care of your business. As much as we may WANT or even NEED our co-officials to "get our back," sometimes that just won't happen. So, you have to do it yourself.

Personally, I have tossed two coaches in all the years I have officiating. The first, I was doing the game by myself. Coach acting a fool, so I stuck him. Late in the game, he wants a foul, and he got it . . . right after he slammed his clipboard down on the chair.

The second, I was calling with a less experienced official. He makes a GREAT call on an OOB play. Coach goes nuts. I tell coach to return to his box and coach his kids. He takes about 5-6 steps onto the floor and starts yelling at me. I stuck him. We shoot the T F-T and inbound the ball. A1 drives the lane and gets hammered. I am lead, and I have the foul. Coach goes off . . .

Me: "Coach, I see you don't have an assistant. I need to let you know that if you receive a 2nd technical foul, that you will be ejected and your team will forfeit the contest." I know, I know . . . should have stuck him right here . . . BUT . . . read on.

Coach: What are you gonna do? You aren't gonna do anything. Go call the game.

Me: TWEET. "Technical Foul on Red Coach. Coach is ejected. Coach, I see you don't have an assistant. The game is a Forfeit. Please put V-2 and H-0 in the book." (He was winning 27-19 in the middle of the 3rd!!) I turned and walked off the floor. My partner never did figure it out. Haven't called with him since . . . (interestingly enough, not by my choice either. He probably scratched me. :D)

Again, take care of business.

Whack - a - roma!!!!

forgot one thing...
 

maybe a comment like, "I'm just trying to match the effectiveness of my officiating to your coaching." :D

In 5 years of officiating I have had maybe 5 coach ejections. Every one of them I gave both T's.

In a perfect world people would take care of bidness, in my world about 20% take care of bidness.