Chastised for double T on Coach

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

1st T: on a 1/1 FT, he is standing behind me (lead, administering) whispers "Idiot." WHACK!.....As I am reporting, and returning to administer T FTs, he asks "What's that for?" I tell him, "I heard the idiot comment, Coach." He immediately jumps back with "You need to learn how to officiate. You're the worst ref I've ever seen!" So I whacked him again, and tossed him. First T's of the year. After faxing in my report, and making a verbal telcal, the next day the State High School office advises that I need to slow down on the second T, and get some distance (which I agree with and try to do) and that I need to swallow my whistle and have a deaf ear (which I don't buy, but I can support their position and philosophy, if so mandated.) I just don't see that the NFHS rules supports that the Coach gets a "free shot" at me once he has earned the first T. Short of the F-Bomb, leave him alone, I was told. Again, I agree you need to give him some room and distance, and time, but I felt his comments were too unsportsmanlike, and in front of the kids. How wrong was I?

Bishop,
You indicated that these were your first T's of the year. Have you ever ejected anyone before (requiring you to complete the paperwork and fax it in)? If the answer is no, I am guessing that you may have gotten the "form letter" that they send all "newer" officials who call both T's on a coach resulting in an ejection. If the answer is that you have several ejections to your credit over the years -- IGNORE the rest of this post!!!

The ideal situation is each T is called by a different official -- this makes the discussion go more smoothly for the association. After all, it wasn't just ONE official who had a problem with the coach, it was TWO.

For the general case, call the T and get away from the coach. OK, makes sense. For the general case, your partner(s) should have your back side covered. OK, fair enough.

I sense that is why you got the response that you did. Had a more experienced official (read as official who has been around for a long time and has handled a number of ejections over the years) made the report that you did, I sense they would have gotten a different response.

We can learn from every situation. Many of your fellow officials have jumped behind your decision in this case. Take that support to heart. After you have several more write-ups to your credit, the association will likely act differently to this type of ejection.

I, like BillyMac, have a thick skin when it comes to coaches comments. At the same time, "idiot!" Not likely to get away with that one. Yikes. "Worst referee I have ever seen." Well, that one I might have just chuckled at hearing (many -- sorry I used this word again, Jurassic, but I think it fits here -- folks have a habit of significantly overusing best/worst/cutest/ugliest and other "est" words). On the other hand, I don't have a problem with you sending him packing for the comment.

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Bishop,
You indicated that these were your first T's of the year. Have you ever ejected anyone before (requiring you to complete the paperwork and fax it in)? If the answer is no, I am guessing that you may have gotten the "form letter" that they send all "newer" officials who call both T's on a coach resulting in an ejection. If the answer is that you have several ejections to your credit over the years -- IGNORE the rest of this post!!!

The ideal situation is each T is called by a different official -- this makes the discussion go more smoothly for the association. After all, it wasn't just ONE official who had a problem with the coach, it was TWO.

For the general case, call the T and get away from the coach. OK, makes sense. For the general case, your partner(s) should have your back side covered. OK, fair enough.

I sense that is why you got the response that you did. Had a more experienced official (read as official who has been around for a long time and has handled a number of ejections over the years) made the report that you did, I sense they would have gotten a different response.

We can learn from every situation. Many of your fellow officials have jumped behind your decision in this case. Take that support to heart. After you have several more write-ups to your credit, the association will likely act differently to this type of ejection.

I, like BillyMac, have a thick skin when it comes to coaches comments. At the same time, "idiot!" Not likely to get away with that one. Yikes. "Worst referee I have ever seen." Well, that one I might have just chuckled at hearing (many folks have a habit of significantly overusing best/worst/cutest/ugliest and other "est" words). On the other hand, I don't have a problem with you sending him packing for the comment.

The state requires the form after every ejection....I have ref'd a long time (and may indeed be the WORST official this Coach has ever seen....can't actually dispute that!) So I am experienced in ejections and T's...just not this year....again, I support the State's philosophy and will try to enforce it....but within reason....thanks for the support and responses....