i saw an illegal call by the ref in the bulls/rockets game

[deecee]

I highly doubt the NBA officials made a rule mistake. These guys know the book inside out, and if they do err its usually an error is interpretation. Its also very rare that if one officials screws up the other 2 dont know whats going on to correct it.

I highly doubt its as you say it was, and I would need some sort of evidence to believe you. Your many months (2) and over 100 (read: 46) posts would lead me to believe you are mistaken. I could be wrong, but from where I stand the evidence points me in that direction.

[PackersFTW]

HAZAA! i figured it out. i kept replaying it, and i was noticing that the whistle appeared to blow about 3/4 of a second before the foul, and then again after. i'm sure that what happened was, when artest drove to the lane, nocioni lightly fouled him (this is what they called the foul on), then .75 seconds later, he wrapped him up, so they basically said that we already blew the whistle, and you continued to foul him.

it makes sense, because after the first whistle, they blew the whistle twice, as if to say 'hey, hey! plays over!' so my confusion is partly on the officials for T'ing up nocioni for fouling a fraction of a second past the whistle, and on the announcers for implying it was for the foul, not after.

although i still think they (funk and king) possibly thought it was how i thought it was, and just didn't know the rules. wouldn't be the first time. just a few weeks ago, hubie brown stated 2-3x that a flagrant foul is one shot and the ball, and then after he realized it was 2, he owned up to the mistake and said announcers should know the rules.

[PackersFTW]

Originally Posted by deecee

I highly doubt the NBA officials made a rule mistake. These guys know the book inside out, and if they do err its usually an error is interpretation. Its also very rare that if one officials screws up the other 2 dont know whats going on to correct it.

I highly doubt its as you say it was, and I would need some sort of evidence to believe you. Your many months (2) and over 100 (read: 46) posts would lead me to believe you are mistaken. I could be wrong, but from where I stand the evidence points me in that direction.

you guys seem to be under the impression that i'm saying that i'm 100% right, and nothing you can say will change my mind. if i thought i wasn't mistaken, and was 100% right, why would i come here asking questions? also, i could have 1000 posts, that proves nothing. if anything, age would be most indicative; i'd believe somebody who is 24 with 9 posts over somebody who is 17 with 1853 posts.

i knew i was probably mistaken (several people, including officials, not noticing the rules? c'mon), i just couldn't figure it out. from my experience on forums in general, a FEW of you should take some advice, which is: when you know or think somebody is mistaken, making smart *** remarks or flat out insulting them makes you look like an angry teen flamer. especially when you try and make him out to be the bad guy just because he then defends himself against your/others comments. i try and play dumb when people do this, and pretend i don't know they're insulting me. i just don't know why people get so insulting just because somebody says something wrong. forums are for discussions, and people are bound to be mistaken in discussions. this stems from other threads, not really this one.

[deecee]

Don't take offense to what we say here to you, its just lots of experience in similar situations where the OP does not have genuine interest but just want to troll around and waste our time. I am glad you came to a conclusion, and I do appologize if I offended

[Adam]

Originally Posted by PackersFTW

you guys seem to be under the impression that i'm saying that i'm 100% right, and nothing you can say will change my mind. if i thought i wasn't mistaken, and was 100% right, why would i come here asking questions? also, i could have 1000 posts, that proves nothing. if anything, age would be most indicative; i'd believe somebody who is 24 with 9 posts over somebody who is 17 with 1853 posts.

i knew i was probably mistaken (several people, including officials, not noticing the rules? c'mon), i just couldn't figure it out.

You're the one who wanted me to assume you had the facts right. I didn't think you were lying, I just thought there was something you missed. There was.

FWIW, I'd trust someone who is 35 or 40 over either of your hypothetical examples. My point had nothing to do with your post count, and everything to do with how long you've been at this site (I never mentioned post count, you did) and your statement of, "usually what happens is, you assume the OP is truthful."

You haven't been here long enough to know what "usually" happens. Again, I didn't imply you weren't being truthful, I asked what your source of information was. Your answer should have been, "the announcers."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by PackersFTW

you guys seem to be under the impression that i'm saying that i'm 100% right, and nothing you can say will change my mind.

Maybe that's because your post reads "Hey -- I caught the NBA making a mistake so basic that even a 24-year old with no experience knows the rule / call" instead of "Can anyone explain what happened at 4:15? Nocioni was given two fouls (a P and a T), but I don't see what he did to earn the T? Is the NBA rule different?"

And, for what it's worth, I believe that you are truthful in reporting what you saw. I do think it's likely that you didn't "see" the whole thing.

[PackersFTW]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Maybe that's because your post reads "Hey -- I caught the NBA making a mistake so basic that even a 24-year old with no experience knows the rule / call" instead of "Can anyone explain what happened at 4:15? Nocioni was given two fouls (a P and a T), but I don't see what he did to earn the T? Is the NBA rule different?"

And, for what it's worth, I believe that you are truthful in reporting what you saw. I do think it's likely that you didn't "see" the whole thing.

it's just how i talk, and i don't think it's uncommon for people to ask questions in the forum of statements. i take it too far though i guess. i just call it like i see it at the time (and at the time, i was damn sure of what i saw. turns out, in a way, i was 3/4 of a second wrong). the thing is, regardless of if i'm too bold or wrong, people replying with insults and smart *** comments isn't going to make the situation better, that's all i'm saying. i'll try not to be so bold with my statements.