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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:34am
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How about doing this

Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:35am
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Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.
Be quite what? Be quite silent?
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:57am
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Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.
I've done this before and it's usually quite effective. It mostly happens during wreck ball, and you get an over-zealous parent who disagrees with a lot of your calls or thinks they know the rules and while I'm reporting a foul against their team, they just keep shaking their head in a you-just-made-a-bad-call kind of way. I tell them that since they're sitting at the table they're going to be impartial, and if they can't do it, then I'll relieve them of their duties and find somebody else who can do the job.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:36pm
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I made a mistake by "T"ing up the scorer. I see that now. But you can't allow the table to criticize your calling. Yes, he was a parent of a player, maybe it was his daughter that I called the foul on, I have no idea.
I agree. Get rid of him. He's not going to get any better.

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Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.
I don't handle it this way, as I've never had any success with it. He/she usually wants to argue the point.

I go to the coach. "Coach, if I have any more problems with your scorer, I'm going to replace him."
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 01:28pm
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I agree that if they are a pain, just have them removed. I'm wondering what the climate of the game was up to this point? It sounds like you were fired up for some reason or another. If the game had been ugly, maybe there were other situations that could have been managed earlier? I'd also like to ask about the person on the book yelling. Is it possible you did drop a number (its happened to all of us) and they were trying to get your attention? I wasn't there and I know I've thrown more than my share of weekend tourney technicals as I was coming up, both deserved and undeserved. I just think maybe you should look at the game management overall to help learn from the game. As always, just my opinion.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 02:19pm
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I admit I don't have any patience with someone at the table trying to referee, and I've replaced a couple, but I've never thought about penalizing the team with a technical.


I did see the PA guy at a local D1 university get replaced one night by the referee. The guy used a sarcastic tone when he announced the foul and the reporting official turned around and said something. I don't know what the PA guy said, but BOOM, he quickly tossed the guy. I thought it was cool, but the crowd response was, let's say unfavorable, the rest of the night.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 04:47pm
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I agree that if they are a pain, just have them removed. I'm wondering what the climate of the game was up to this point? It sounds like you were fired up for some reason or another. If the game had been ugly, maybe there were other situations that could have been managed earlier? I'd also like to ask about the person on the book yelling. Is it possible you did drop a number (its happened to all of us) and they were trying to get your attention? I wasn't there and I know I've thrown more than my share of weekend tourney technicals as I was coming up, both deserved and undeserved. I just think maybe you should look at the game management overall to help learn from the game. As always, just my opinion.
it was an 8th grade girls game. It wasn't close. The team that got the "T" was winning. The girl I called the foul on wasn't in foul trouble. I had the right girl. If anything, they were wrong. I had the right player.

The visiting fans were out of control with their yelling about everything. I even had to get game management to sit in the stands between 2 families before anything bad happened. ( that was after the "T" ) But they were bad before that.
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