Chirpie Coaches
 

I had a Girls Varsity game last week with a woman(very attractive) as the head coach and several male assistants.

Well the males were chirping about this and that all game long, the HC too from time to time, well reached my limit, during a dead ball I went over the bench, with the HC standing and the assistants seated, I said "If I hear another male voice complain about a travel call or anything else, the HC(remember she is attractive want her standing all game long) will be seated the rest of the game, do you get my drift, remember I said a male voice."

Well the rest of the game I didn't hear a male voice and the female voice disipated also.

How is that relevant?

If I had been the head coach and "got your drift," I would have made a vigorous complaint to your assignor on the basis of your inappropriate comment.

Did you actually say the part in red?

.... it's a good thing I wasn't your partner that game.... (various unacceptable name-calling items deleted)

This would not be the recommended way to warn a bench. You may need to work on your coach/referee communication skills.

"Coach, I don't mind answering questions from you; but your bench is about to cost you your coaching box."

I think Juulie said it all. Coaches are off limits even to "mind games".

Because coaches have no minds, :D.

MTD, Sr.

Of course not, just like the Grand Canyon, she was nice to look at.

Then it's not nearly as bad as it looked at first; I still would have worded it differently.

The thing to remember is that every time we open our mouths, we potentially give a coach ammunition to use against us. In this case, the coach could use these comments against the official in a call/letter to the assignor - even if the official called a fantastic game, he/she just opened the door to a complaint that the assignor cannot defend. There are better ways to handle the bench decorum issues that will not give a coach that kind of ammunition. Hopefully nothing comes back to bite this official in the butt.

Threats never seem to work as well as, just telling the coach to handle their assistants. Threats seem to back you into a corner and make you do things you don't want to. Like giving "T's"

I could envision, "coach, you need to tell your assistants to remain quite on the bench, complaining about calls is unsportsmanlike".

Then the next is the official warning.

Speak for yourself, grasshopper. :rolleyes:

This is the warning. There's no "official warning" for this.

The next time should be the whistle and technical foul. Repeated warnings is from the UN school of officiating, and doesn't work.

I thought I finally made a relevent comment, and now I find I am giving too many warnings. Do you guys just have your hands glued together in the form of a "T", so you are always in the automatic position?????

Not at all. I've given exactly two coach Ts (of the unsportsmanlike behavior variety) at the high school level since moving to CO 3 years ago. Both were after one warning; most times one warning works, but you should never shy away from the T when the coach earns one.

Unsporting Behavior...
 

Warning generally should only be given once. And generally a warning from one official should serve as the warning for the crew. If you tell a coach that her assistants need to pipe down then that serves as the warning AND you need to inform your partner(s) that the bench as been warned.

My T's usually come without a preceeding warning. Conversely, when I do give a warning (whether informal or formal; whether quietly or for all to hear) I can't remember the last time I've had to follow it up with a T.

I give warnings when I feel that will suffice to handle the situation. I give T's when I think a T is the only way to deal with it (or if I'm just tired of the bullsh!t :D )

Um, yeah.

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Out of all the things I have learned on this site the biggest lesson is how to deal with coaches.

For reasons unknown to me coaches have been allowed to run amok in my area. Coaches behaving badly, refs spending the whole game talking and "massaging" them as the coaches scream,officiate and basically behave in really unacceptable ways.

I knew if I was gonna continue to officate i wasn't going to be abused for $50 a game. I took what I read here and applied it to my games. Lo and behold the coaches generally act right pretty early in the games I officiate.

Why ? First 2 or 3 times down the court,if they are doing the crazy coach drill, I cruise them and give a quick explanation of why they are in violation Rule 10-4-1. If they keep it up they get their T. In less then a year my reputation precedes me. Other officials consistently state "enjoyed working with you.", "Great job on dealing with coaches."

Crazy coach T's this year,3, including one last night. And he wanted it and he got it. He apoligized after the game and I let him know "its not personal" .

So if these guys around here say "T", thats good enough for me.