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fullor30 Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:00am

switch
 
Brain cramp...........got off phone with official friend who had a question regarding switch.

Going long, C opposite table calls foul at top of circle in backcourt.

Who goes where?

jdw3018 Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:05am

Depends on where the ball would be inbounded. If the foul was on the tableside half of the court, C would report and return to C, T would administer the throw-in.

If the throw-in would be opposite the table, C would report then become the new L, T would come across the court to administer the throw-in, and L would slide up to become C tableside, commonly referred to as the bump-and-run.

I just remind myself - foul in the backcourt going to the frontcourt, everyone stays where they are, treating any subsequent throw-in administration as needed.

Ch1town Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571608)
Brain cramp...........got off phone with official friend who had a question regarding switch.

Going long, C opposite table calls foul at top of circle in backcourt.

Who goes where?

Around here in a HS game b/c fouls/violations:
C reports & pushes to L
Old L new T Zs over to administer the throw-in
Old T is new C

If FTs are involved:
C will report & remain tableside T
Old T is new L
Old L is new C

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:31pm

Keep it simple. The New Trail takes anything that is in the back court. The Center either stays as the Center or becomes the New Lead based on where the ball it put into play.

Peace

fullor30 Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 571682)
Keep it simple. The New Trail takes anything that is in the back court. The Center either stays as the Center or becomes the New Lead based on where the ball it put into play.

Peace

So if spot is where C was opposite table

C reports table side, slides down to C table side
Trail inbounds at spot
Lead slides over to ball side

Spot table side

C reports foul goes back to C opposite table
Trail moves up to inbound
Lead stays put

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:45pm

That is why I said keep it simple, Trail takes all spots in the back court. When you get to the front court, you switch like normal.

Peace

jdw3018 Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571686)
So if spot is where C was opposite table

C reports table side, slides down to C table side
Trail inbounds at spot
Lead slides over to ball side

Actually this isn't right.

C reports table side, then 'goes back' and slides down to L. L stays tableside and slides up to C. Think about what you'd do if instead of a foul, A is bringing the ball up and B knocks it out of bounds on C's sideline. In that case, T comes over to administer, C slides down to L, L slides up to T.

Ed Maeder Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 571690)
Actually this isn't right.

C reports table side, then 'goes back' and slides down to L. L stays table side and slides up to C. Think about what you'd do if instead of a foul, A is bringing the ball up and B knocks it out of bounds on C's sideline. In that case, T comes over to administer, C slides down to L, L slides up to T.

In other words treat it like a violation, with the new trail administering all throw ins in the back court.

fullor30 Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 571690)
Actually this isn't right.

C reports table side, then 'goes back' and slides down to L. L stays tableside and slides up to C. Think about what you'd do if instead of a foul, A is bringing the ball up and B knocks it out of bounds on C's sideline. In that case, T comes over to administer, C slides down to L, L slides up to T.


Finally kicked in..............got it.

bigdog5142 Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:18pm

I just want to make sure I've got switching right in my head...first varsity game of the season tonight and second season doing varsity.

Calling official always remains tableside after reporting, correct?

Foul called in backcourt, no switch.

Everyone else rotates to fill in.

jdw3018 Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog5142 (Post 571709)
Calling official always remains tableside after reporting, correct?

Except for the situation we're talking about in this thread - there is no switch on a foul called in the backcourt going to the frontcourt when no free throws are involved. In this situation the calling official (regardless of where he is) "goes back" to his position, though that position may then change based on where the throw-in is to be administered.

Calling official stays tableside on all fouls called in frontcourt, and on all fouls resulting in FTs.

fullor30 Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 571713)
Except for the situation we're talking about in this thread - there is no switch on a foul called in the backcourt going to the frontcourt when no free throws are involved. In this situation the calling official (regardless of where he is) "goes back" to his position, though that position may then change based on where the throw-in is to be administered.

Calling official stays tableside on all fouls called in frontcourt, and on all fouls resulting in FTs.

I'm getting a headache...........

jdw3018 Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571716)
I'm getting a headache...........

fullor, you got it above.

It's really not that complicated if it's just broken down into two separate acts:

First, the foul (in the backcourt) is called and reported. The calling official returns to his position (whether T, C, or L).

Then if needed, the officials move to new positions based on the location of the throw-in the same as if a violation had occurred.

In reality you won't do this two-step process, but if you think about it this way you should be able to determine where you (and the other two officials) should go.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 23, 2009 03:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571608)
Brain cramp...........got off phone with official friend who had a question regarding switch.

Going long, C opposite table calls foul at top of circle in backcourt.

Who goes where?


What would you do if C called a travel (ignore for a moment that it's not in C's area)? The old L / new T would move to administer the throw-in and the other officials would adjust down (not across) the court.

Same thing on a foul.


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