Horrible display of sportsmanship

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

JRut,
First of all, I, as you know, appreciate and frequently agree with your views on game management.

You are right, we do not know exactly how the officials were attempting to address the conduct of the player discussed.

No matter that the officials let the kid off the hook the first time, that can be considered admirable that they tried to manage the situation in a different manner by talking to him... However... what happened to dealing with it times two, three, and four?

"Little Johnny if you do that again you are grounded! Now Johnny don't do that again or likek mommy said you will be grounded next time! Now Johnny I really mean it this time...!

Where does this kid learn respect for the parent teacher coach or official if when told if they do something again there will be consequences and when they do it again nothing happens that time either?

If you tell a player, or coach that something is going to happen if they proceed down the path they are giong - it better happen the next time they do it.

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

It seems as though this player was put in a position to have to deal with adversity. The coach appeared to have had an opportunity to help this youngster grow and chose to allow the player to act out his frustrations without the teaching element being introduced. Once again, we do not know what the coach said in the locker room after the game, but the coach gave the appearance of missing a teaching moment.

While I agree with this statement as far as what happens after the game - what scares me is that it seems to have entered your thought process as to who you are managing your game on the floor in the immediate time frame.

I am not saying the official was wrong in not giving the inital T, however, the coach did not take advantage of the free ride. So if this player gives me a problem again they will get the T, especially if they were told that their previous behavior is unacceptable.
We can not worry about his lack of a meal, his mom yelling at him, his girl friend leaving him, or his coach being a jerk. There are nine other players on the floor, two head coaches and two benches full of other persons, that take their cue from how we deal with every play on the floor. So if this player is allowed to act the fool all day apparently so is everyone else.
That is not the game I want to have at any level on my floor.
Just my opinion. But you have to take care of the business at hand when required. From the way I read the OP it was required.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

While I agree with this statement as far as what happens after the game - what scares me is that it seems to have entered your thought process as to who you are managing your game on the floor in the immediate time frame.

I am not saying the official was wrong in not giving the inital T, however, the coach did not take advantage of the free ride. So if this player gives me a problem again they will get the T, especially if they were told that their previous behavior is unacceptable.
We can not worry about his lack of a meal, his mom yelling at him, his girl friend leaving him, or his coach being a jerk. There are nine other players on the floor, two head coaches and two benches full of other persons, that take their cue from how we deal with every play on the floor. So if this player is allowed to act the fool all day apparently so is everyone else.
That is not the game I want to have at any level on my floor.
Just my opinion. But you have to take care of the business at hand when required. From the way I read the OP it was required.

Do not misunderstand my post. From a coaching perspective, I am saying that it appears as though a great teaching opportunity was lost.

I am NOT telling you that I would not have given the player a technical foul in this game. These are nearly all HTBT moments, but if I had discussed something with the player AND if Trojan Horse's view of the game is accurate, the player would have gotten a T somewhere along the line if I were one of the officials.

I try not to second guess other officials (on either side) in these situations. We have to maintain control of the game. Did the officials do that in this case? We have one account that says no. The officials (and others) may disagree.

If a player yells "Jesus Christ" in vain during a game, will officials issue a technical foul? Well, in a CYO game, ABSOLUTELY. In a non-CYO, non-Christian league, the official better proceed with caution. Without knowing exactly what happened, it is difficult to judge.

IF the accounts are accurate, an official almost certainly should have issued a T. IF the accounts were accurate, regardless what the officials did or did not do, the coach had some great teaching moments -- at least most of which seem to have been missed.