Bobby Knight on Traveling

[ATL Hoya]

Any thoughts on this segment? It ran on Sportscenter this morning.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3837838

[AKOFL]

Give him a whistle in thoes games and see how many travels get by him. Slow motion would be nice, but man, Games would take alot longer. There are alot of travels not called at college level and I wont even talk NBA. Thoes plays he showed i thought the official is probably watching for the foul not the travel. DUH!! O well, all i can do is try and call more travels for Mr. Knight.

[tballump]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

! O well, all i can do is try and call more travels for Mr. Knight.

You better do a lot better than try for Mr. Knight or he will scratch you forever like he did to that highly rated official who gave him a T many years ago. I believe his name was Mr. Solomon. Knight basically ended his career.

[refguy]

I actually agree with him. Watch any men's college game and you'll see many examples.

[Texas Aggie]

He was right on the UNC player, but wrong on the other play, and both for the wrong reason. He's in that incorrect mindset that the number of steps is determinative. He didn't once mention the term, pivot foot, which makes me wonder if he's actually read the rule.

This is just another example where the media and fans think coaches actually know much of anything about the rules. Traveling is horribly, in my opinion, over called at the lower levels. I don't watch much college ball anymore, at least not until March.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

He was right on the UNC player, but wrong on the other play, and both for the wrong reason. He's in that incorrect mindset that the number of steps is determinative. He didn't once mention the term, pivot foot, which makes me wonder if he's actually read the rule.

This is just another example where the media and fans think coaches actually know much of anything about the rules. Traveling is horribly, in my opinion, over called at the lower levels. I don't watch much college ball anymore, at least not until March.

He was completely right on the Tyler Hansbourgh, but on that play it looked like there might have been a push. It is possible the official looked at the play and let things go because it was not totally bad.

And he mentioned in the Hansbourgh case that he took 5 steps. Some of those steps were totally legal.

Peace

[zm1283]

Yeah I didn't think the video of Blake Griffin was a travel.

[Mendy Trent]

Yes, the Hansborough play was an obvious travel. Way too obvious to let it go because of a bump. The second play looks fine to me.

I'm sure we could find a couple missed lay-ups that "decided a one-point game" or a couple coaching decisions that made the difference too. Is BK's note that referees can make zero mistakes or they decide the game? That is just dumb.

Knight's sideshow act was growing tired as a coach. He seems rather pathetic on the boob tube.

[just another ref]

I think Coach Knight may have oversimplified/overstated the point a bit, but I think there is a lot of truth in what he says. The play involving Hansborough is not an isolated incident.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think Coach Knight may have oversimplified/overstated the point a bit, but I think there is a lot of truth in what he says. The play involving Hansborough is not an isolated incident.

Are you saying that people at the high school level are getting travels right?

Pece

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He was completely right on the Tyler Hansbourgh, but on that play it looked like there might have been a push. It is possible the official looked at the play and let things go because it was not totally bad.

And he mentioned in the Hansbourgh case that he took 5 steps. Some of those steps were totally legal.

So if some of 5 is legal, then it seems to me that most of 5 is illegal. Correct call is travelling.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you saying that people at the high school level are getting travels right?

What does high school have to do with anything about the OP or the video? Nobody mentioned high school - not even Coach Knight.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

So if some of 5 is legal, then it seems to me that most of 5 is illegal. Correct call is travelling.



What does high school have to do with anything about the OP or the video? Nobody mentioned high school - not even Coach Knight.

It is called a hypothetical question.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What does high school have to do with anything about the OP or the video? Nobody mentioned high school - not even Coach Knight.

It's hypothetical. I wonder if they get traveling calls right on the moon.

[budjones05]

Wow.....I'm just going to leave it at that

[jearef]

This isn't the first time that ESPN has aired a segment which will end up making our jobs harder than they already are. The Hansborough play was a clear travel. The second play was clearly legal, yet Knight acted like it was an obvious travel that was missed. As another poster noted earlier, all Knight talked about was the number of steps taken by the player, and we all know that has absolutely nothing to do with traveling. The only thing that matters is the pivot foot, and that term wasn't mentioned at all in this piece.

I've emailed ESPN on multiple occasions in the past when they have aired segments like this; I have yet to receive a response of any sort. Maybe someone else from the forum will have more luck.