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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 08:43am
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NCAA classifies 7th graders as prospects

Let's turn it up a notch in middle school. Call all those hacks and foot slides, temper tantrums and illegal entries. Go get 'em! It matters! [sigh]


http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9...PHMA&gt1=42003
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 09:13am
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Jeez...what bothers me is the quote that it could eventually reach other sports, including football. That one bothers me the most, because football is just too physical a sport to be exploiting those 7th graders. I can just see it now, Bubba is recruited out of the backwoods during 7th grade so he can play for one of the SEC schools when he grows up.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 10:10am
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Now, FINALLY, parents have the justification that they have so richly and frantically yearned for when they declare that coaches and officials are costing their "babies" a chance to play college ball . . . even though they are still playing for the 7th grade "B" Team. Whew, just in time NCAA. Thanks.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 10:24am
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Now, FINALLY, parents have the justification that they have so richly and frantically yearned for when they declare that coaches and officials are costing their "babies" a chance to play college ball . . . even though they are still playing for the 7th grade "B" Team. Whew, just in time NCAA. Thanks.
Don't forget, we'll be costing them a scholarship or a "full ride" as well.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 10:30am
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Don't forget, we'll be costing them a scholarship or a "full ride" as well.
Seriously????
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 10:35am
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Now, FINALLY, parents have the justification that they have so richly and frantically yearned for when they declare that coaches and officials are costing their "babies" a chance to play college ball . . . even though they are still playing for the 7th grade "B" Team. Whew, just in time NCAA. Thanks.
This is merely a validation of what parents have known for a long time.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 11:08am
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NCAA classifies 7th graders as prospects

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9...PHMA&gt1=42003
Isn't this a good thing as it now puts limitations on the coaches? Prior to this classification, the coaches could have unrestricted contact with the potential players. Or I am wrong, if so, educate me.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 12:22pm
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Isn't this a good thing as it now puts limitations on the coaches? Prior to this classification, the coaches could have unrestricted contact with the potential players. Or I am wrong, if so, educate me.
you are absolutely correct...this IS a good thing. previously, kids in 8th grade and younger could be contacted, pursued, and recruited by colleges without any rules governing this process. now, those schools that wish to do this must follow NCAA guidelines that will limit access to these kids.

as we've seen with other areas of life in the U.S., little or no regulation/oversight leads to larger problems which require substantially more difficult solutions to be implemented after the fact.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 12:44pm
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you are absolutely correct...this IS a good thing. previously, kids in 8th grade and younger could be contacted, pursued, and recruited by colleges without any rules governing this process. now, those schools that wish to do this must follow NCAA guidelines that will limit access to these kids.

as we've seen with other areas of life in the U.S., little or no regulation/oversight leads to larger problems which require substantially more difficult solutions to be implemented after the fact.
It IS a good thing with regard to the unscrupulous recruiting that takes place across the country. I mean, c'mon . . . we already have websites that are ranking 5th grade (9-10 yrs old) recruiting classes. Really?!?!? Is the "science" of scouting now SO advanced that we are able to predict, with any level of certainty, just how good a ball player a kid is going to be BEFORE they even hit puberty? I don't think so.

However, though inadvertently, it also DOES promote the often narrow-minded, selfish, and vicarious nature of some (or many) parents/guardians. Sad, but true.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 01:35pm
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It IS a good thing with regard to the unscrupulous recruiting that takes place across the country. I mean, c'mon . . . we already have websites that are ranking 5th grade (9-10 yrs old) recruiting classes. Really?!?!? Is the "science" of scouting now SO advanced that we are able to predict, with any level of certainty, just how good a ball player a kid is going to be BEFORE they even hit puberty? I don't think so.

However, though inadvertently, it also DOES promote the often narrow-minded, selfish, and vicarious nature of some (or many) parents/guardians. Sad, but true.
Well, the heights of children are often predicted: usign some formula using a study of dominate genes and heights of the mother and father and their parents. In addition, I've heard to take a child's height at age 30 months, and then double it.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 01:57pm
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Is the "science" of scouting now SO advanced that we are able to predict, with any level of certainty, just how good a ball player a kid is going to be BEFORE they even hit puberty? I don't think so.
Are they even allowed to hit puberty?
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 02:44pm
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Even if the scouting is not "unscrupulous", 8th grade recruiting has already been happening. This is from May 1, 2008:

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To hear Howard Avery describe it, Kentucky coach Billy Gillispie knew nothing of his son when their paths happened to cross at a recent AAU basketball event.

As fate would have it, though, that chance encounter led to a scholarship offer from the Wildcats and perhaps the earliest verbal commitment in the history of college basketball's winningest program.

Michael Avery, a 6-foot-4 eighth-grader from Lake Sherwood, Calif., says he will play for the Cats. Now on with the business of finding a high school.

"That's the funny thing," Howard Avery said with laugh. "We've got our college. Now we need our high school."
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