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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 05:39pm
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Purposely stepping on opponent's foot

Clarification, please. B1 occupies first slot for FTA. Jumps the gun and steps on A2's adjacent foot (quite purposely) as if to keep him on the ground for any ensuing rebound. I get him for violating, and we re-shoot. Given the attitude of this guy, I was shocked he didn't try it again at some point in the game.

Is this just a violation each time, or doesn't it transgress to something more at some point? Did I kick the call? He was not stomping the opponent's foot, just creating what I would consider a potentially dangerous situation for the opponent -- and maybe himself. (I can't remember a worse turned ankle from playing days (and there were many) than when I stepped on another player's foot inadvertently.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 05:46pm
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if you are on the fense -- just whistle the violation the first time and tell him if he does it again its a T for unsportsmanship. If you are sure its on purpose then just call the intentional foul.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 06:02pm
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if you are on the fense
Would that be the offense or the defense?
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 06:14pm
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Clarification, please. B1 occupies first slot for FTA. Jumps the gun and steps on A2's adjacent foot (quite purposely) as if to keep him on the ground for any ensuing rebound. I get him for violating, and we re-shoot. Given the attitude of this guy, I was shocked he didn't try it again at some point in the game.

Is this just a violation each time, or doesn't it transgress to something more at some point? Did I kick the call? He was not stomping the opponent's foot, just creating what I would consider a potentially dangerous situation for the opponent -- and maybe himself. (I can't remember a worse turned ankle from playing days (and there were many) than when I stepped on another player's foot inadvertently.
I don't see why this is a violation. Why not a holding foul?
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 06:54pm
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Easy holding foul. I'd call the foul and violation, I think.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 07:00pm
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I don't see why this is a violation. Why not a holding foul?
B1 vacated his lane space before the ball hit the rim so he has committed a lane space violation during a free throw. 9-1-3d,g.

He gets the benefit of the doubt one time. Next time will be a personal foul (possibly intentional), and 3rd time gets unsporting T (which could be determined flagrant or not).
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 09:05am
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B1 vacated his lane space before the ball hit the rim so he has committed a lane space violation during a free throw. 9-1-3d,g.

He gets the benefit of the doubt one time. Next time will be a personal foul (possibly intentional), and 3rd time gets unsporting T (which could be determined flagrant or not).
For contact?
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 09:32am
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For contact?
Correct. Contact during a live ball is personal. 3rd time you might consider flagrant.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 09:40am
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Correct. Contact during a live ball is personal. 3rd time you might consider flagrant.
Daryl suggested an unsporting T for what's essentially a contact foul. I disagree. I also am in no way going to call this flagrant; I don't care if he does it 5 times.

I do agree with Daryl's escalation, but....
1. violation.
2. personal foul.
3. intentional foul.
4. intentional foul.
5. intentional foul.
6. intentional foul (player's done now).

Do you really think this even gets to the 4th step?
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deecee, you might want to re-read the OP:

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He was not stomping the opponent's foot, just creating what I would consider a potentially dangerous situation for the opponent -- and maybe himself.
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deecee, you might want to re-read the OP:
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