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bigda65 Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:07am

Was this correct??
 
Held ball called, the arrow was pointing toward B, but given to A under B's basket. B's coach says something to official and they have a short discussion at the table.

A inbounds, goes up and scores a three.

Table sounds horn, officials gather and after a loooong discussion, give the ball back to B under their own basket. They at first removed the three points, but put them back on.

Was this handled correctly?

bob jenkins Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:11am

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Originally Posted by bigda65 (Post 567925)
Held ball called, the arrow was pointing toward B, but given to A under B's basket. B's coach says something to official and they have a short discussion at the table.

A inbounds, goes up and scores a three.

Table sounds horn, officials gather and after a loooong discussion, give the ball back to B under their own basket. They at first removed the three points, but put them back on.

Was this handled correctly?

They got it right eventually (I think -- it's hard to tell from the description). Once the throw-in has been completed (the ball touched on the court), it's too late to correct.

Thus, the saying to the coach "You'll get 2 out of the next 3."

chartrusepengui Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:12am

Once A inbounded the ball - this is not correctable.

bigda65 Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:27am

I was pretty sure the points couldn't be taken off, what im fuzzy on is where B takes the ball out.

If not correctable, why wouldn't they inbound on the opposite end.

Go to POI before all the uncorrectable stuff happened?

GoodwillRef Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:45am

B should inbound the ball under A's basket because they just scored a 3 point basket...they can run the endline on the throw-in.

Rich Tue Jan 13, 2009 09:53am

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Originally Posted by bigda65 (Post 567935)
I was pretty sure the points couldn't be taken off, what im fuzzy on is where B takes the ball out.

If not correctable, why wouldn't they inbound on the opposite end.

Go to POI before all the uncorrectable stuff happened?

It's uncorrectable. So you don't do ANYTHING.

bigda65 Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:10am

I knew something was wrong.

They gave the ball back to B under their basket, and then switched the arrow, after the throw-in.

fullor30 Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:54am

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Originally Posted by bigda65 (Post 567948)
I knew something was wrong.

They gave the ball back to B under their basket, and then switched the arrow, after the throw-in.

Nope..........as mentioned above, uncorrectable, play on. Since A was awarded posession, Arrow to B.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:17am

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Originally Posted by bigda65 (Post 567948)
I knew something was wrong.

They gave the ball back to B under their basket, and then switched the arrow, after the throw-in.

Then I amend my answer -- they did it wrong. A keeps the points and B gets the throw-in after A's basket just as they would had the game not been interrupted. B keeps the arrow.

CMHCoachNRef Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:22am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 567942)
It's uncorrectable. So you don't do ANYTHING.

These true statements imply that you CANNOT change the arrow and that you must go to the POI -- which is why Team B gets to run the end line (or base line for Mark's benefit) for the throw-in.

While an inbounds play under B's basket is probably better than running the end line at the other end, losing the possession arrow left Team B really shortchanged, here. They gave up three points when they should have gotten the ball (nothing officials can do about that one) AND they lost the arrow in the process (officials should not have done this).

Rich Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:30am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 567956)
Then I amend my answer -- they did it wrong. A keeps the points and B gets the throw-in after A's basket just as they would had the game not been interrupted. B keeps the arrow.

Which is what I meant, too.

OHBBREF Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigda65 (Post 567948)
I knew something was wrong.

They gave the ball back to B under their basket, and then switched the arrow, after the throw-in.

the arrow doesn't change you awarded it wrong but the arrow stays with the team that should have gotten the AP throw in

you can only lose an AP throw in if you do what?

A. ?
B. ?
C. ?

Indianaref Tue Jan 13, 2009 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 568009)
the arrow doesn't change you awarded it wrong but the arrow stays with the team that should have gotten the AP throw in
I don't think this was bigda65's game.
you can only lose an AP throw in if you do what?
Throw in team violates

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Nevadaref Tue Jan 13, 2009 04:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 568009)
the arrow doesn't change you awarded it wrong but the arrow stays with the team that should have gotten the AP throw in

you can only lose an AP throw in if you do what?

A. ? Violate during the throw-in
B. ? Legally complete the throw-in
C. ?

Don't believe that there is a C.

OHBBREF Tue Jan 13, 2009 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 568124)
Don't believe that there is a C.

Hey someone could come up with something - you never know with this crowd? :confused:


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