Floor Violation - Running out of bounds

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

kjsref asks,
"Does the shot live and die on its own?"

6-7-9: "The ball becomes dead...when a violation as in 9-2 through 9-13 occurs."

9-3-3: "A player shall not leave the floor for an unauthorized reason. PENALTY: The ball is dead when the violation occurs..."

EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try ends wh 9-3-3 occurs by an opponent.

[Nevadaref]

I believe that Freddy omitted the exception because it is not relevant in the context of the OP.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I believe that Freddy omitted the exception because it is not relevant in the context of the OP.

I believe you're right. I didn't reread the OP. For some reason I thought B had committed the violation.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Identical to a player for Team A committing an "excessively swinging elbows" violation while try is in the air. Violation on A, ball dead immediately therefore no basket, and throw-in at nearest spot.

[tomegun]

Let's say the ball is in the half court, a player runs out of bounds on the end line and a violation is called before he/she has a chance to come back in to receive a pass. I know coming back in doesn't matter. I'm curious, how many people have called this in a game? If so, how did the coach accept it since I'm assuming he asked what happened?

What if...
The player that is called for this violation wants to run the baseline later on in the game. Knowing the rule, he/she says, "Hey ref, the defender has a foot on the line" and proceeds to plow right through them as you are watching?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tomegun

What if...
The player that is called for this violation wants to run the baseline later on in the game. Knowing the rule, he/she says, "Hey ref, the defender has a foot on the line" and proceeds to plow right through them as you are watching?

Is the defender standing still?

I maintain that on plays where LGP is not required, a player may be standing on the line and still take a charge.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Is the defender standing still?

I maintain that on plays where LGP is not required, a player may be standing on the line and still take a charge.

Help me here, but I'm pretty sure (in college at least) a defender cannot have LGP if they are considered out of bounds.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Help me here, but I'm pretty sure (in college at least) a defender cannot have LGP if they are considered out of bounds.

And, as discussed in extreme depth in another thread I haven't taken the time to search for (but if you're interested you should, as it's quite entertaining), snaqs is making the argument (that I agree with) that LGP isn't required if the defender is standing still...

Definitely no argument from me that the defender doesn't have LGP - just that LGP isn't required.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by just another ref

EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try ends wh 9-3-3 occurs by an opponent.

Yes, that is correct. However the situation put on the table did not have the violation committed by the opponent, right?