Pre-wrap around knee
 

This is what happened and this is what I did: B4(blue) has yellow prewrap around the knee . I tell her to remove it,Girl says its for her knee and the doctor says she needs to where it.after she takes it off she yells to the stands mom get my brace. The coach asks whats wrong and tell him no prewrap around the knee unless she has a doctors note or something from the state that says she can wear it. Mom never got the brace and even dressed for the V game with no brace or prewrap. One V official asked me what happened and I said she cant wear it becuz it wasnt the same color of the uniform and i considered it jewelry becuz she she had no medical or state note saying she can wear it.He said they can wear it. Was I right or wrong? I see both sides of the story. Its not a cast but at the same time why does she need it? Truth is I had her earlier this year and told her to take it off and she did with no complaints. Thanks guys!

From my interpretation, the player should be allowed to wear it.

-Josh

Thats the feed back I need, what is your interp?

The rules on pre-wrap only apply to headbands (that go completely around their head), not things used for medical purposes. You are misinterpreting the rule. And certainly something to wrap a leg for some stability is not under the color restriction. You need to go back and read the new rule on the topic. You were completely wrong to prevent the player from playing with the pre-wrap and you are opening yourself up for some kind of liability to restrict such device. Pre-wrap is not a hard or leathery surface device that would be illegal under other rules. The girl has the right to play with that around their leg.

Peace

just to make sure we are on the same page. Im speaking on the wrap the use aroung the head,that nylon stuff. I dont think its legal around the knee. But I will continue to look at the rule.wristbands or headwear is not legal around the knee.

Why ask the question if you're not going to accept the answer that is given :confused: The wristband rules are for items wore on the arms. The headband rules are for items wore around the head. The hair control device are for items that are wore to control the hair. Pre-wrap can be wore around the knee without color restrictions. This would be the same as sock color. If I had concerns about the item (which I highly doubt I would), I would ask the coach if it's being worn for a medical reason. If he replies, yes...Problem solved, it will be worn as long as it is not dangerous.

-Josh

Josh You are correct and agree with u 100% Im not arguing. I just dont know what to call that nylon stuff.

Pre-wrap and Athletic Tape ?

but what if I consider it "For Show" Jewlery. What support to the knee does it offer? Like I said no medical use that I seen with no note. I just want more info on this..I see what u are saying no harm no foul..but whats the use? To me its a hair control device.

Jewelry can never be worn. Pre-wrap is not jewelry under the rules; neither are wristbands or headbands. The only information you need is what the New Rules says. And we are not telling you this without evidence. You are looking for something that is not there.

Peace

Thanks Rut, I see what you are saying now.

NEohioref:

Why are you making up rules. There is not rhyme or reason doing what you are doing to this girl. You were wrong in the first game you had with her and you were wrong in the second game you had her. It might not be jewelery, but the jewelery rule does not apply to it.

Pre-wrap is pre-wrap and it can have a medical reason when it is worn around the leg. Don't go looking for boogers. I can't believe you went down this road. As a NE Ohio basketball officical (member: Trumbull Co. Bkb. Off. Assn. since 1971; member: Lake Erie Dist. Bkb. Off. Assn, IAABO Bd. #55) I have always felt that the best H.S. basketball officials, as a whole district, are in the NE District and then you go down this road of lunacy.

MTD, Sr.


P.S.: The correct spelling of "becuz" is spelled "because."

Pre-wrap below the knee
 

Many athletes, especially teens, wear pre-wrap below the knee for Osgood Schlatter's disease and other knee pain issues.

See Pre-wrap as a knee strap and see article here.

I can't tell you the officiating rules but I can tell you that it is used extensively for this medical purpose.

Same Reason My Daughter Never Uses Her Shift Key To Capitalize ...
 

becuz, Y ??? Who sez ???

NFHS Equipment ...
 

NFHS Rule 3-5:
ART. 1 . . . The referee shall not permit any team member to wear equipment
or apparel which, in his/her judgment, is dangerous or confusing to other players or is not appropriate.
ART. 2 . . . Guards, casts, braces and compression sleeves must meet the
following guidelines:
a. A guard, cast or brace made of hard and unyielding leather, plaster, pliable
(soft) plastic, metal or any other hard substance may not be worn on the
elbow, hand, finger, wrist or forearm; even though covered with soft
padding.
b. Hard and unyielding items (guards, casts, braces, etc.) on the upper arm or
shoulder must be padded.
c. Knee and ankle braces are permitted but all exposed hinges must be
covered. Most over-sleeves recommended by manufacturers are
acceptable. These braces may be padded or unpadded.
d. Must be worn for medical reasons.

Thanks Sr, like I said before I understand. Thats why I love you guys. When someone is wrong you give them that tough love answer that makes them understand real quick. Thanks for the feedback. Sr remember Im just a Diebler loving lunatic!:D

Sr., Yeah, Good Nickname ...
 

Tough love? You should have been around for Jurassic Referee before he went on sabbatical. He made the rest of us look like pussy cats.

NEohioref: Good nickname for Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Good in more ways than one.

Not sure why people get carried away about using jargon when their own spelling isn't correct???

The only part of Art. 2 that comes into play here:
 

Coach, Player A1 has pre-wrap on her knee. Is that for medical puposes? Okay, good.

Why would you even go there? It's not a brace, cast, compression sleeve, or guard...just leave it alone. She's not breaking any rules or safety measure so just leave it alone.

Come on, how could pre-wrap be for medical reasons? It's pre-wrap... not tape, not an ace bandage, not a brace. Having said that... it's also not illegal. Let it go and play the game.

I just corrected my spelling mistake. If you notice I made my OP at 02:04amEST. I wasn't completely awake at the time and since I am old and senile that is my excuse and I am sticking with it, :D.

MTD, Sr.

According to Ron Cooper, ATC, athletic trainer, pre-wrap makes an excellent patellar tendon strap.

Ron says, "I learned about this technique by watching other athletic trainers and by word-of-mouth. This use of underwrap has been around for at least 5-10 years."

"The athlete places the pre-wrap about 8-10 inches above the knee and wraps it around their thigh 10-12 times, as tight as they like. Next, the athlete's palms roll down over pre-wrap, creating a cord. Finally, just roll the strap down to desired spot."

Using underwrap for patellar tendon support has several advantages over straps or braces made specifically for that purpose. The biggest advantage, Ron says, is comfort. "Pre-wrap is flexible and form-fitting to the knee. Most purchased straps are connected by Velcro, which can irritate the underside of the knee causing pain and discomfort."

Ron also likes the control afforded by underwrap. "The level of tension and pressure is determined by the athlete, increasing comfort during the activity. The strap also stays in place better and longer. Purchased patellar straps are typically made out of neoprene, which get wet and slide when an athlete perspires. You'll see athletes tugging at the device, trying to twist it into place. But the pre-wrap is made of a foam substance that holds better to the athlete's body." Although neoprene holds heat and helps muscles stay warm, Ron says that sometimes neoprene straps feel almost too hot at times.

If she had tape around it, you wouldn't have said a word. Pre-wrap is just a kind of tape, let it go. Assume it's medical if you need to; but there's no need.

Yo Yo Yo Playa!!!

Inquiring Minds Want To Know ...
 

treece: Thanks for sharing.

Not sure why people end sentence fragments with redundant, incorrect punctuation???

How did I do??? Oops. I mean, how did I do?
 

Let's see if I can translate this from mbyron into English? Please keep in mind that sarcasm is difficult to translate.

"Please post in complete sentences, and end a question with one question mark, not three question marks".

Had a girl last week who was wearing pre-wrap in a similar fashion. Partner asked if we should tell her to take it off. I said no, because there was no rule justification for telling her to do so. He said, alright, we'll just leave it unless the other coach complains. I almost had to walk away shaking my head in disbelief!

... and put the period BEFORE the closing quote mark ...

(English teachers or officials: Which are the biggest pain?!) :)

Since We're Dealing With Rules, I Consider My Posts To Be Legal Work ...
 

In the American style, periods and commas are always placed inside the quotation marks, for typographical reasons. In the British style, periods and commas are placed inside the quotation marks only when they are part of the quoted material, which is the more logical placement.

In a literary work, the American style of always placing periods and commas inside the quotation marks is recommended. In a technical or legal work, where accuracy is essential, the British practice of placing periods and commas within quotation marks only when they are part of the quoted material is recommended.

I think I liked it better when you just posted pictures.

On second thought.......:D

Peace

I coach cross country and track. Many of my athletes use pre-wrap around the knee to relieve knee pain associated with tendinitis and jumper's knee. It affects more female athletes than male athletes. Using the school-issued pre-wrap (FREE) is much more economical than purchasing a knee band that retails for close to $30. Both devices offer the same treatment.

I have personally used pre-wrap around my knee when I ache. Under no circumstance would I suggest she remove this device. I know the purpose and intent, and also know how damaging and painful it could be when not used. You are keeping the athlete safe by permitting her to use this device.

Chemists! :p

Computer programmers who make binary jokes.

I cannot speak for Cross Country; it is not illegal in the game of basketball to wear pre-wrap. The problem was the OPer did not know the entire rule on the issue. And the rules have made it clear that items worn for medical reason are not only proper, but not to be removed unless it would fit some special restrictions. And pre-wrap is not dangerous in any way to the person wearing it or others that might come in contact with it.

Peace

I see lots of kids wearing prewrap around the knee for OS or jumper's knee, as well as McDavid (or other brands) that are elastic straps with velcro.

I've never had a problem with the kids wearing them, but I have noticed this year that girls are color-coordinating their prewrap with uniforms.

I'm not going to be the fashion police (unless it is a blatant rules or safety violation), and I'm surely not going to make a kid take off anything that is supposedly to keep an injury from occurring.