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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 09:29pm
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then put B1 on the line to shot 2 free throws for the intentional foul and then went POI
I'm assuming this is HS, and even if you call it an intentional personal rather than intentional technical (which would have been correct), you don't go to POI. The only real difference in administration is that the ball should be put at the division line for B's throw in rather than at the spot of the foul (if intentional personal). The other implication here is that if you correctly ruled a technical, and the player were to receive another T, he would be disqualified.

Its important that you get these plays correct. Read the rules carefully. This isn't one of the more confusing situations that come up in basketball. I realize in the heat of the moment we all forget some basic stuff, but SLOW DOWN.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:28pm
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has anyone called a intentional or a flagrant foul on an illegal screen. I suppose putting up an elbow or doing something malicious you could get a flagrant. But an intentional? I don't think I've seen that even with really violent screens. Player could be trying to set a screen and do it too late causing a hard foul for a illegal screen. Maybe an intentional there
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:39pm
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has anyone called a intentional or a flagrant foul on an illegal screen. I suppose putting up an elbow or doing something malicious you could get a flagrant. But an intentional? I don't think I've seen that even with really violent screens. Player could be trying to set a screen and do it too late causing a hard foul for a illegal screen. Maybe an intentional there
Yes, I've had a player retaliate for an illegal screen on the other end by putting a little shoulder into the previous offender. We got together, got the call right (in my opinion), and called it intentional.

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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 11:04pm
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I'm assuming this is HS, and even if you call it an intentional personal rather than intentional technical (which would have been correct), you don't go to POI. The only real difference in administration is that the ball should be put at the division line for B's throw in rather than at the spot of the foul (if intentional personal). The other implication here is that if you correctly ruled a technical, and the player were to receive another T, he would be disqualified.

Its important that you get these plays correct. Read the rules carefully. This isn't one of the more confusing situations that come up in basketball. I realize in the heat of the moment we all forget some basic stuff, but SLOW DOWN.
The other difference is that if you properly rule this a technical, any player from the offended team can shoot the free throws. If you rule it an intentional, the player he pushed (or hit) must shoot the shots.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 01:18am
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Smile another false double foul situation

What would you do if A1 is driving to the basket jumps for a dunks B1 fouls him, and then A1 charges into B2 for a player control foul and the basket goes in?????????????????????
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 03:34am
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What would you do if A1 is driving to the basket jumps for a dunks B1 fouls him, and then A1 charges into B2 for a player control foul and the basket goes in?????????????????????
Your post is a little convoluted but I believe the answer is found in the casebook 4.19.9 sitch A
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What would you do if A1 is driving to the basket jumps for a dunks B1 fouls him, and then A1 charges into B2 for a player control foul and the basket goes in?????????????????????
I've called this one once before; it was a layup and not a dunk.

B2 has roots, and A1 isn't changing direction. However, B1 reaches in and slaps A1's arms even before the release. Tweet. See the foul on A1: verbalize and signal "no basket", and 2 shots. Report both fouls. Award two shots to A1.
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What would you do if A1 is driving to the basket jumps for a dunks B1 fouls him, and then A1 charges into B2 for a player control foul and the basket goes in?????????????????????
By being patient and seeing the whole play, I'm may, if A1 plows over B2, determine that B1 gained no advantage by the contact and will not deem that a foul. If B1's contact was substantial, I'll decided that B1's contact is what caused the subsequent contact and will only call the foul on B1.
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