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BillyMac Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:14am

Good Advice, Except For Lion Feeding ...
 
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 562058)
It's just the way everybody in my association does it 90+ % of the time. I see it all as a non-issue.

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"
The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. 2002
When visiting a foreign land, follow the customs of those who live in it. It can also mean that when you are in an unfamiliar situation, you should follow the lead of those who know the ropes.

The proverb is often attributed to Saint Ambrose, whose advice to Saint Augustine read: "Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi" ('When you are in Rome live in the Roman style; when you are elsewhere live as they live elsewhere'). St. Ambrose, quoted in St. Augustine Letters, "quando hic sum, non ieiuno sabbato; quando Romae sum, ieiuno sabbato", "when I am here i.e. Milan, I do not fast on Saturday; when I am in Rome, I fast on Saturday".

Also:
"Whan tho herd hat Rome Do so of ther the dome" (when you are at Rome do as they do there).
(Modern Philology (1940))
"That which is commonly in euery mans mouth in England Whan you art at Rome, do as they do at Rome".
(1552 R. Taverner)
"My advice to you is among the Romans, do as the romans do".
(1766 in L. H. Butterfield)
"Do at Rome as the Romans do,’ is the essence of all politeness".
(1836 E. Howard Rattlin the Reefer)
‘I thought the English never bothered about protocol?’ ‘When in Rome, however, we do as the Romans do.’
(1960 N. Mitford Don't tell Alfred)
"One woman stationed there (Saudi Arabia) who purports to be comfortable with the rules said, ‘When in Rome, do as the Romans do.’ But how far does that go? To feeding the lions?"
(2001 Washington Post 8 Dec.)

Adam Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:31am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 562058)
Never really thought much about it. It's just the way everybody in my association does it 90+ % of the time. I do prefer this personally. I sometimes take another shirt to change into after the games, but most times not even that. When I do have business elsewhere on the way to the game, I will simply take my uniform with me and change on the way somewhere. I see it all as a
non-issue.

Curious, are you provided a dressing room at the varsity level?

Sometimes I wonder if the emphasis on coming in business casual isn't to perpetuate the reason for a dressing room; which also provides us with needed privacy before and after the games.

just another ref Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:40am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 562100)
Curious, are you provided a dressing room at the varsity level?

Sometimes I wonder if the emphasis on coming in business casual isn't to perpetuate the reason for a dressing room; which also provides us with needed privacy before and after the games.

We always have someplace to go, most often a coach's office.

fullor30 Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:55am

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Originally Posted by j2u4now (Post 562013)
I dress for future success. Since your always making a first impression on someone , dress business casual at the minimum.

What would be your maximum?

JRutledge Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:02pm

I would never come dressed in my uniform. They are going to give me an office or something private. If this cannot happen, then I will not work there. And considering all the rain, snow and other weather, how can you keep your uniform clean when you have crap all over it in the first place?

Peace

BillyMac Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:18pm

Mr. Blackwell Is Smiling From The Red Carpet In The Sky ...
 
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 562106)
What would be your maximum?

Black tie?

just another ref Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 562109)
I would never come dressed in my uniform. They are going to give me an office or something private. If this cannot happen, then I will not work there. And considering all the rain, snow and other weather, how can you keep your uniform clean when you have crap all over it in the first place?

Peace

We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.

Adam Sun Dec 28, 2008 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 562115)
We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.

It's an Illinois thing. Most blame the governor.

BillyMac Sun Dec 28, 2008 02:58pm

And Dirty Rain Too ...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 562147)
It's an Illinois thing.

Don't they have a motto in the "Land Of Lincoln", "Get dirty snow on you early, get dirty snow on you often."?

Freddy Sun Dec 28, 2008 03:32pm

et Tu, Brute . . .
 
[QUOTE=BillyMac;562092]"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

Or, for our Shishmaref ref buddy, "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do."

JRutledge Sun Dec 28, 2008 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 562115)
We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.

I do not wear a uniform to a game much more than weather considerations. It looks stupid to me and looks like anyone can walk off the street and work the game (which you have not proven to people that do not know you by doing this). When you give that impression, people treat you that way as well.

Peace

just another ref Sun Dec 28, 2008 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 562161)
I do not wear a uniform to a game much more than weather considerations. It looks stupid to me........

It looks stupid to show up to officiate wearing an official's uniform.

O K



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.......and looks like anyone can walk off the street and work the game ........
Actually, pretty much anyone can walk off the street and call the game. Look at, well, yourself, for example.:D If you feel that you need to be dressed a certain way to make a certain impression, I suggest you continue to do so. I am glad not to be in an area with such restrictions, whether real or imagined.

26 Year Gap Sun Dec 28, 2008 07:06pm

Common sense would have you not be dressed in your uniform prior to arrival. Many end up eating or drinking on the way to the game and spilling food on your uniform would not be a good way to show up at game sites. And with all of the crazies out there, being dressed in your uniform on the way out to your car is not a good idea. The only exception I can think of is if your day job is at Foot Locker and you go straight from work to the game site.

Guys who show up dressed for the game are generally viewed as guys who will spend as little time as possible there and grab their checks and go. That seems to be the common view and there must be a reason for it.

That said, showing up to do a bunch of AAU games usually has a different protocol.

Adam Sun Dec 28, 2008 07:17pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 562213)
That said, showing up to do a bunch of AAU games usually has a different protocol.

So, apparently, does working in different regions.

I see this like belted pants. 90% of the areas, it's a no-no. In some areas, it's the norm. If it's the norm, do it. If it's against the norm, don't do it if you want to move up.

26 Year Gap Sun Dec 28, 2008 07:30pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 562217)
So, apparently, does working in different regions.

I see this like belted pants. 90% of the areas, it's a no-no. In some areas, it's the norm. If it's the norm, do it. If it's against the norm, don't do it if you want to move up.

That's what I will need to deal with NEXT season. Here, about half the officials have beltless. I prefer belted to avoid Welmering up my game. Guess I will give the flex belt another go to see how that works.

Sorta like Smittys vs Lanyards.


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