Running out on end lines

[refnrev]

Saw this the other night and wanted some input. Post runs out of bounds on offensive on end around the lane and reenters. Calls for ball but doesn't get it ... no whistle. Same player does the same thing again a couple of minutes later and received the ball after... still no whistle. What would you have called and what would your mechanic have been?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by refnrev

Saw this the other night and wanted some input. Post runs out of bounds on offensive on end around the lane and reenters. Calls for ball but doesn't get it ... no whistle. Same player does the same thing again a couple of minutes later and received the ball after... still no whistle. What would you have called and what would your mechanic have been?

If you search the deep archives on here, you'll see that I called this once in a BV tournament final. It was a T then.

I just checked the rule now, and I couldn't find it. Hmph. Anyone?

[jdw3018]

The rule now is an OOB violation.

As for whether it should be called, some would argue not to call it in scenario one where no advantage was gained, others would argue to call it regardless of whether the ball comes his way.

Most would say it should be called in scenario two for sure.

My view was originally only to call this when an advantage is gained, but I changed my thoughts that if it is blatant, regardless of the advantage gained, it should be called. If it's not going to be called in scenario one, then some sort of verbal warning about staying in bounds better be given or he's going to be penalized for the exact same action the next time down the court...

[JugglingReferee]

That's what I thought, jdw. Phew.

[refnrev]

What confused me is that used to be a T. I thought it was now just a violation but not 100% sure. I think it was not called in that game because of the point disrepancy... it was the losing team that violated and it was never going to have any impact on the game. Or maybe he just missed it?

[summdawg76]

I do call this a violation only if the player that reenters immediately receives the ball. There is no advantage gained if he did not get the ball.

The way I see it, if the player was trying to avoid a screen to get the pass, you have to get it. If he was avoiding the screen to avoid a crash under the bucket, then let it go.