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Ignats75 Thu Dec 18, 2008 04:22pm

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How silly, common sense, as long as there is one head coach.
Easy for you to say. You didn't have one of your biggest assignors say NEVER.

asdf Thu Dec 18, 2008 04:42pm

Ask your assignor/official what happens if the head coach during the game is..

-- forced to leave due to illness, injury, emergency

-- forced to leave due to an ejection......

Then ask him......

Since the "head coach" is no longer on the bench, who do you go to to advise if one of their players fouls out?

Since the "head coach" is no longer on the bench, does this mean no one from the bench can legally request a time out?

Since the "head coach" is no longer on the bench. Does this mean no one from his team can go to the scorrers table to request a conference to discuss a correctable error?


Easy stuff here.........

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Dec 18, 2008 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 559319)
That is the proper question to ask.

The state office or local school district might have a certification program for the coaches. They might even have a registry of all the head coaches. If that is the case, then that person may be the only qualified head coach. There could be implications for insurance or liability.

However, I seriously doubt if the game official should get involved in this unless the state has issued a directive about the matter. I would allow it and simply notify the local authority about it. The folks in that capacity and the school ADs can hash it out and decide if they have a problem with it.

Under the NFHS rules there is no requirement. The head coach is whoever says he/she is the head coach at the start of the game. A team could be temporarily without their head coach, but someone is certainly going to fill in for that night.

Last season we had a team whose head coach was on duty with the National Guard and out of the country for the first four games of the season. The asst simply took over the duties of the head coach until his return.


NevadaRef:

The OhioHSAA does have a cerification program. All coaches (head coaches and assisstants) from H.S. varsity down to Jr. H.S. must be certified by the OhioHSAA. I am not sure what the requirements are but I know that the Toledo Public Schools District will not issue a Supplemental Contract (coaches and faculty advisors for after school clubs sponsored by a school) to a person to coach a sport unless he is certified by the OhioHSAA.

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Thu Dec 18, 2008 09:10pm

Rules Re: Head Coach ???
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 559314)
There is nothing in the rules that defines the HC.

True. But there are several rules where we need to know who the head coach is.

Similar play:
Question 1: Head coach is ejected. Assistant coach now becomes the "head" coach regarding time outs, etc., but must do it while seated. Correct?
Question 2: Head coach becomes ill, and leaves in first quarter. Assistant coach now becomes "head" coach regarding timeouts, etc. Can he stand?

Back In The Saddle Fri Dec 19, 2008 03:53am

I'm not sure how much it helps the discussion, but we were told a couple of years ago by our state office that the person who attends the coaches/captains meeting is the head coach for that game. This was to address the situation where the HC doesn't feel the need to attend the meeting him/herself. I guess one logical implication is that, at least here in snowy cold Utah, there is no official state designation of who the HC is. The determining factor, as far as we are concerned, is who attends the meeting.

Adam Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:12am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 559488)
NevadaRef:

The OhioHSAA does have a cerification program. All coaches (head coaches and assisstants) from H.S. varsity down to Jr. H.S. must be certified by the OhioHSAA. I am not sure what the requirements are but I know that the Toledo Public Schools District will not issue a Supplemental Contract (coaches and faculty advisors for after school clubs sponsored by a school) to a person to coach a sport unless he is certified by the OhioHSAA.

MTD, Sr.

Maybe, but I see nothing here that indicates someone qualified to be an assistant coach might not be qualified to be a head coach.


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