My first T of the year

[Adam]

Nothing exciting, though. JVG, administrative T.

Midway through the first quarter, H23 enters the game. Ball gets halfway down the court and the table starts buzzing. I’m C table side in transition, so I hit the whistle to see what’s going on.

“23 isn’t in the book.” Fortunately for H, V had the ball anyway. Coach offered his mea culpa, we shot moved on.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nothing exciting, though. JVG, administrative T.

Midway through the first quarter, H23 enters the game. Ball gets halfway down the court and the table starts buzzing. I’m C table side in transition, so I hit the whistle to see what’s going on.

“23 isn’t in the book.” Fortunately for H, V had the ball anyway. Coach offered his mea culpa, we shot moved on.

So, the ball was made live (given to player for throw-in), inbounded, then the table informed you of a player who was not in the book?

Once the ball becomes live, it is too late to penalize.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by referee99

So, the ball was made live (given to player for throw-in), inbounded, then the table informed you of a player who was not in the book?

Once the ball becomes live, it is too late to penalize.

No, because the book needs to be changed. They had not changed the book yet.

[referee99]

hrm.

Really? So now that player has played without being in the book... scorer informs they are not in the book... it is when the player is physically added to the book that the penalty must be enforced?

So, if in your OP everything had been the same, but the table buzzed to inform you that they had just added the player to the book... it would not have been a team technical?

[referee99]

Case play 10.1.2 Stituation: (b) ... during a time-out in the second quarter of play, the Team B coach requests the scorer to add a name to the team list or change a team member's number in the score-book. When is the penalty invoked for this administative infraction?

Ruling: The infraction occurs when the scorer is advised to add to or change the scorebook. The foul must be charged when it occurs and enforced when the ball next becomes live. Once the ball has become live, it is too late to penalize.

[referee99]

OK, I'm getting closer...

Your sitch. Player enters... no action with the book. Ball becomes live... table informs... action is taken... scorer is now advised to add player to the book. Admin T.

Another sitch. Player enters... coach says, "hey add 23 he just got here"... scorer complies... ball is made live... other team's scorekeeper informs other team's coach that 23 is not in book... coach calls time to raise issue. Now it is to late to penalize. Book was advised to make change and made change. Ball had become live with the player already added to the book.

Originally Posted by referee99

Once the ball becomes live, it is too late to penalize.

For changing a marked starter.