Occupying Free throw Spaces

[refnrev]

I am continually amazed at the misunderstandings over the lane. I had a newbie tell me last week that all the spaces had to be filled before the shooter could shoot. I told him that was not right. When he told me which of his partners told him that I was surprised. However, in retrospect, it was the same guy that I corrected one night by telling hiom it was not possible for the thrower to travel on a throw-in.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The opponents do not have the option here of not occupying the first two spaces. Two opponents must occupy these spaces.

Unless there's only one player left on that team.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Unless there's only one player left on that team.

True.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Can someone further clarify one more point on this? If FT shooter's opponents for some reason choose not to fill the first spaces, can FT shooter's teammates take them?

8-1-4 uses "shall" (not) in c. and it's not clear if that means "may never," given the use of "may" in d.

Read 8-1-4c again. The final sentence makes this very clear.

"No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these marked lane spaces."

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I always convert "shall not" to "is not permitted to" when I read a rule.

You're not by any chance a member of a law-making or rule-making governmental body?

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Read 8-1-4c again. The final sentence makes this very clear.

"No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these marked lane spaces."

Sheesh. Better start wearing my glasses when I read or work. tx

[rwest]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Unless there's only one player left on that team.

If they only have one player and therefore, can't occupy both spaces as required by rule, then do we have a delayed violation? Or do we ignore that since they don't have enough players to fulfill the requirements?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rwest

If they only have one player and therefore, can't occupy both spaces as required by rule, then do we have a delayed violation? Or do we ignore that since they don't have enough players to fulfill the requirements?

The latter.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by rwest

If they only have one player and therefore, can't occupy both spaces as required by rule, then do we have a delayed violation? Or do we ignore that since they don't have enough players to fulfill the requirements?

No violation. If nothing else, slap a 2-3 on it. A team shall not be required to do the impossible.

[Nevadaref]

Or check the NFHS interps for this situation!

2003-04 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS

SITUATION 2: Team A started the game with seven team members in the scorebook. All team members foul out but one, A1. Team A is leading by eight points with 38 seconds left in the game with a chance to win. A1 fouls B2 with Team B in the bonus. A1 occupies one of the first marked lane spaces for the free throw, with no teammate to occupy the other required space. RULING: By rule, a team may continue to play with one player if that team has an opportunity to win the game. Accordingly, since Team A can only put one player in the required free-throw marked lane space, it cannot be penalized. Further, Team B may not occupy the first marked lane space left vacant by Team A. (3-1-1 Note, 8-1-3)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Or check the NFHS interps for this situation! 2003-04 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS

How do your remember, or get your hands quickly on, an interpretation from five years ago? I have trouble figuring out where I left my keys, from a few hours ago!

[Nevadaref]

I know the author of that interp.