End of game situation offensive foul scenario with a made bucket at the buzzer

[rwest]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ball is dead once the ball goes through the basket.

With the ball dead and time expired, the game is over. Any contact after the fact is ignored.

Situation A

A foul on or by an airborne shooter can not be ignored even if the ball is dead. The period doesn't end when the horn sounds while a try is in the air. The period ends when the try ends. Now if the try ended after the horn but before the shooter returned to the floor, I still say its a PC foul. We protect the shooter until they return, but that protection comes with a price. Would we ignore a foul on the shooter after the ball went in and after the horn? Maybe if it didn't effect the outcome of the game. So by that logic we can't ignore a foul by an airborne shooter even if the horn had sounded. PC foul; wipe off the basket and begin the over time period.

Situation B

Since the shooter returned to the floor before contact, they are no longer an airborne shooter. The ball was dead at the moment the try was successful. I'd ignore the contact foul unless it was too sever to ignore. Came over!

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by rwest

Situation A

A foul on or by an airborne shooter can not be ignored even if the ball is dead. The period doesn't end when the horn sounds while a try is in the air. The period ends when the try ends. Now if the try ended after the horn but before the shooter returned to the floor, I still say its a PC foul. We protect the shooter until they return, but that protection comes with a price. Would we ignore a foul on the shooter after the ball went in and after the horn? Maybe if it didn't effect the outcome of the game. So by that logic we can't ignore a foul by an airborne shooter even if the horn had sounded. PC foul; wipe off the basket and begin the over time period.

Situation B

Since the shooter returned to the floor before contact, they are no longer an airborne shooter. The ball was dead at the moment the try was successful. I'd ignore the contact foul unless it was too sever to ignore. Came over!

These were my answers, but like I said I wanted to hear what others had to say first.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk

These were my answers, but like I said I wanted to hear what others had to say first.

I agree with rwest on this.

Here's an online rule book:

Middle Tennessee Basketball Officials Association

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Here's an online rule book:

Middle Tennessee Basketball Officials Association

Seems as though some of the folks need to visit their online rules resource a little more often.

Take a look at some of the 'you make the call' poll results posted on their site...Not so sure I would want this info publicly available

This question was posted 1/15/2008

Results for "A1 has the ball in the backcourt and throws a pass into the front court. The ball strikes the official who is in bounds in the front court and the ball rolls into the backcourt and is first touched by A1."
Choice Votes %
Back court violation 318 50.1%
No violation - count continues 228 35.9%
No violation - count restarts 69 10.8%
Traveling 19 2.9%
Total 634 100%



Same question posted 9/15/2004

Results for "Team A is in backcourt - passes ball - hits Referee in frontcourt inbounds - goes directly into backcourt - A1 catches the ball."
Created 21:17 09/15/2004
Choice Votes %
Backcourt Violation 75 50.3%
OK. No Break in Ten Second Count. 47 31.5%
OK. Ten Second Count Starts Over. 19 12.7%
OK. But A1 Cannot Dribble. 8 5.3%
Total 149 100%


But at least they are consistent with 50% getting correct answer in both instances

more 'interesting' results can be found at this link...
Middle Tennessee Basketball Officials Association

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Here's an online rule book:Middle Tennessee Basketball Officials Association

I'm still looking for alternative free online rulebook to the one above. Or, what's the cheapest way to get an online rulebook and casebook if I end up having to pay for it? NFHS? How much? EOfficials.com?

[CaRef5]

wouldnt that be a pc and the ball is just waved off, no matter if it goes in or not...its still a pc

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I agree with rwest on this.

Me, too.