End of game situation offensive foul scenario with a made bucket at the buzzer

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ball is dead once the ball goes through the basket.

With the ball dead and time expired, the game is over. Any contact after the fact is ignored.

OK, lets say the crash happend before the ball goes through the hoop. Full court shot from the back court.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk

OK, lets say the crash happend before the ball goes through the hoop. Full court shot from the back court.

Well, the ball is still live if it hasn't gone through the hoop, so you'd have a player control foul. Wave off the basket, report the foul and go to overtime.

[mbyron]

If you trick the case up sufficiently, it will be a PC foul, no basket, time expired, get ready for OT.

[rockchalk jhawk]

is it general consensus then that once the ball is through the hoop and the buzzer has sounded, the contact afterwards is ignored even if the A1 hasn't returned to the ground before the crash?

what if we change it up and say that B1 commits the foul after the buzzer and before the airborn shooter returns to the ground. you're going to ignore that contact as well then?

[Adam]

The only way this basket might count is if the ball went through and the horn sounded prior to the contact.
However, the principals to consider are:
1. Although the ball becomes dead when a basket is made, a personal foul by the airborne shooter can still be called as an exception.
2. Although the ball typically becomes dead when the horn sounds, it remains live if the horn blows while a shot is in the air.

Either way, I’m waving off the shot due to the PC. Unless I can be convinced the contact should be ignored. I'll have to review the rules more carefully, though.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

a personal foul by the airborne shooter can still be called as an exception.

Rule reference?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Rule reference?

I'll provide it when I can if someone doesn't beat me to it.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Rule reference?

I don't have my rule book with me, but I believe it is in the definitions defining fouls. A personal foul is a live ball contact foul or a foul on or by an airborne shooter. The implication is that a foul on/by an airborne shooter is still a personal foul even if the ball is dead. Check out 4.19.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by rwest

I don't have my rule book with me, but I believe it is in the definitions defining fouls. A personal foul is a live ball contact foul or a foul on or by an airborne shooter. The implication is that a foul on/by an airborne shooter is still a personal foul even if the ball is dead. Check out 4.19.

Ya, 4-19-1:

A personal foul also includes contact by or on an airborne shooter while the ball is dead.