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chartrusepengui Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:33am

order of FT
 
Last night - JVB - Blue team gets tip and scores. White coming down court. I'm trail. As I pass table - scorer has hand in air. White pushing ball quickly. Partner calls a block in paint and try misses. He indicates 2 shots. At this time - horn sounds and table says that Blue has wrong # in book. The kid scoring the basket had the wrong #. No problem - T - coach ok with it.

Now which to administer first?

Partner and I had quick discussion. I told him about the wave from the scorekeeper as I was passing prior to the action under basket. We went with shooting the 2 for the T first and then filled the lane for the two throws because of the block.

We did it this way because the table was trying to tell us of wrong number prior to the whistle for the block - so we "did them in order"

What would you have done?

mbyron Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:57am

Which was called first, the block or the T? That tells you the order.

cmckenna Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:05am

What I would have done
 
Take the whole hand waving thing out of it...

You were not "officially" informed of the wrong number nor could you verify it till after the foul when the ball was dead. So the order of occurance is common foul then admin T.

Clear the lane and have A shoot the shots for the blocking foul then go to the other end to have B shoot the 2 shots for the T and administer the throwin to B at the division line across from the table.

chartrusepengui Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:06am

I thought we kicked it at the time but the rationale was we did it because the table was trying to get our attention before the other action. Also - this was in first minute of game. Scorekeeper said horn should have sounded right after after basket because he told clock operator prior to White team picking up ball. The newbie on clock said she "couldn't find the horn button".

chartrusepengui Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmckenna (Post 554943)
Take the whole hand waving thing out of it...

You were not "officially" informed of the wrong number nor could you verify it till after the foul when the ball was dead. So the order of occurance is common foul then admin T.

Clear the lane and have A shoot the shots for the blocking foul then go to the other end to have B shoot the 2 shots for the T and administer the throwin to B at the division line across from the table.

A was shooting all FT

cmckenna Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 554915)
The kid scoring the basket had the wrong #.

Sorry. I was working off the above from your OP.

So you would stay at the same end but everything else stays the same.

chartrusepengui Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:14am

Right - at the time what we did seemed to make sense but at half the first words from each of us was "crap - we kicked the first call"

referee99 Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:25am

All good.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 554951)
Right - at the time what we did seemed to make sense but at half the first words from each of us was "crap - we kicked the first call"

No you didn't ---- not if you got the block call right ;)

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:07pm

NFHS 8-6-2 "If there is a multiple throw and both a personal and technical foul are involved, the tries shall be attempted in the order in which the related fouls were called, and if the last try is for a technical foul, or intentional or flagrant personal foul, the ball shall be put in play by a throw-in."

I was thinking it would be the order in which the fouls occurred, but it specifically says the order they were called.


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