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3SPORT Sat Nov 22, 2008 02:11pm

It's the law: Athletic officials need a license to call
 
My father in law told me about this happening in San Diego, CA.

Check this story out.

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26 Year Gap Sat Nov 22, 2008 03:04pm

How about licensing fans who think they are officials?

co2ice Sat Nov 22, 2008 04:16pm

Is'nt it amazing how difficult times on cities brings down the heavy hand of government, This is:confused: ridiculous, however I would'nt put it passed my city or even my state to try............

BillyMac Sat Nov 22, 2008 05:40pm

I Didn't Know That Horses Could Swim ...
 
"Officials make anywhere from $46 (girls varsity water polo)".

Do you have to know how to swim to officiate? I'm not a great swimmer. I'm not drowning for $46.

Mark Padgett Sat Nov 22, 2008 08:49pm

Actually, it doesn't bother me at all. I have an S-corp and all my referee income is paid to the corporation. I pay a state corporations tax and a city home occupation permit fee. It's well worth it. If you have quite a bit of referee income, I suggest you speak with your tax professional.

fullor30 Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by co2ice (Post 552492)
Is'nt it amazing how difficult times on cities brings down the heavy hand of government, This is:confused: ridiculous, however I would'nt put it passed my city or even my state to try............

Get use to more government.

w_sohl Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 552501)
"Officials make anywhere from $46 (girls varsity water polo)".

Do you have to know how to swim to officiate? I'm not a great swimmer. I'm not drowning for $46.

Don't officiate it but know people who do. You walk along the edge of the pool.

Didn't you watch any Water Polo in the Olympics?

BillyMac Sun Nov 23, 2008 07:23am

Is There A Swim Stroke Called The Horse Paddle ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 552548)
Didn't you watch any Water Polo in the Olympics?

A friend of mine is a big supporter of the ASPCA, the Humane Society, and PETA, and asked me not to watch water polo. He claims that too many horses drown during these contests.

BillyMac Sun Nov 23, 2008 07:30am

I Prefer My Halftime Water Bottle Shaken, Not Stirred ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3SPORT (Post 552479)
Athletic officials need a license to call.

If I lived in Southern California, I would be the first in line to get that license to increase my chance of getting a double-0 license number. It wouldn't have to be 007, any double-o number would do. That would give me a license to kill. Would that be cool, or what? During the pregame officials/coaches/captain conference I would get to introduce myself as "Mac, BillyMac".

26 Year Gap Sun Nov 23, 2008 09:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 552548)
Don't officiate it but know people who do. You walk along the edge of the pool.

Didn't you watch any Water Polo in the Olympics?

Billy is afraid someone will push him in after a 'no-call'.

JugglingReferee Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:09am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 552561)
Billy is afraid someone will push him in after a 'no-call'.

That would have to be a flagrant technical foul.

Unless he deserved it, of course! :eek: :p

bob jenkins Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:55am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 552524)
Actually, it doesn't bother me at all. I have an S-corp and all my referee income is paid to the corporation. I pay a state corporations tax and a city home occupation permit fee. It's well worth it. If you have quite a bit of referee income, I suggest you speak with your tax professional.

Can you provide some more details? What income can you defer / expenses can you take under the S-Corp that you can't take on schedule C?

Skarecrow Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:17am

I have had a S Corp for years, and really the only real benefit I find is maybe some protection via the corporation from personal losses should there be a suit of any kind....I have to pay employer's share of W-2 taxes, Withholdings, Medicare, FICA...all of the normal....as a Schedule C, you have to pay your SE taxes....my accountant tells me there is a substantial savings to the S Corp, but I really haven't seen it....I THINK!

You need a good interview with your tax man to decide what to do...I keep thinking of going back to the Schedule C, but I do like it that he does my books....

jdw3018 Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skarecrow (Post 552584)
I have had a S Corp for years, and really the only real benefit I find is maybe some protection via the corporation from personal losses should there be a suit of any kind....I have to pay employer's share of W-2 taxes, Withholdings, Medicare, FICA...all of the normal....as a Schedule C, you have to pay your SE taxes....my accountant tells me there is a substantial savings to the S Corp, but I really haven't seen it....I THINK!

You need a good interview with your tax man to decide what to do...I keep thinking of going back to the Schedule C, but I do like it that he does my books....

With an S-Corp you have to pay yourself a salary, and the taxes on that is no different than the taxes for a sole proprietorship (I mean, they're different, but they add up to the same amount in bottom line terms to you).

However, with an S-Corp you don't have to take your entire income as salary, and any income taken at the end of the year beyond that salary is treated as a dividend and taxed as such. That's where the savings come in.

In my opinion, to take advantage of the S-Corp (which includes additional fees and is a more complicated filing process) you have to have a decent amount of income. But it definitely pays to consult your accountant.

bob jenkins Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 552587)
With an S-Corp you have to pay yourself a salary, and the taxes on that is no different than the taxes for a sole proprietorship (I mean, they're different, but they add up to the same amount in bottom line terms to you).

However, with an S-Corp you don't have to take your entire income as salary, and any income taken at the end of the year beyond that salary is treated as a dividend and taxed as such. That's where the savings come in.

In my opinion, to take advantage of the S-Corp (which includes additional fees and is a more complicated filing process) you have to have a decent amount of income. But it definitely pays to consult your accountant.

But, dividends are taxed at the same rate as earned income, I think.


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