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echo Tue May 21, 2002 11:18am

During the game last night A1 had been playing a good game. With a few minutes left to go in the 2nd half I call him for traveling. Make my call and start heading the other way. Next thing I know the ball is sailing past me.
My partner calls the T and he is done for the night(fouls out). He was pleading his case that he thought the ball would be thrown in from the other endline.
Afterwards I am told he got upset with the call and threw the ball at me. The game ended up to be a good one.

Mark Padgett Tue May 21, 2002 11:58am

I had a game a few weeks ago in which something similar happened. I made a PC foul call on a HS varsity player in a spring league game. He slammed the ball down, then threw it into the bleachers. WHACK!

He said he was just throwing it to me. I told him my arms weren't twenty feet long.

LarryS Tue May 21, 2002 04:25pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I had a game a few weeks ago in which something similar happened. I made a PC foul call on a HS varsity player in a spring league game. He slammed the ball down, then threw it into the bleachers. WHACK!
Please allow a question slightly off subject. I've been told both ways and want some guidance for the summer league games I will be working before our camp.

I call a foul on a player. He raises the ball over his head and slams it to the floor but catches it (you can see but not here the "golly gee willikers" associated with the slamming).

First time I saw it happened, my partner gave a T. I have also T'd a player for that. When I did it, my partner said I should have held the whistle because you can't expect a player not to get angry at themselves over "dumb" mistakes. I feel slamming the ball warrants a T...now simply slapping it with a hand and grimacing is different.

Where do each of you stand on this?

dblref Tue May 21, 2002 05:35pm

I will usually not T if they catch it, but I will tell 'em to knock that crap off. If they slam it and don't catch it, I tell 'em if the ball comes back down, they are gonna get a T. They look at you like, huh?

Brian Watson Wed May 22, 2002 06:40am

This kind of play, to me, usually is the player upset at himself or a teammate. That is a good time to use some preventative officiating, and tell him to knock it off.

If it continues to happen, whack away, but to do right off the bat seems extreme.

Doug Wed May 22, 2002 06:43am

I had a similar senario, except the kid yelled "hey ref"! So, i turned around only in enough time to have the ball wack me in the face! I had a black and purple eye and my nose was broken!

JugglingReferee Wed May 22, 2002 06:49am

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Originally posted by Doug
I had a similar senario, except the kid yelled "hey ref"! So, i turned around only in enough time to have the ball wack me in the face! I had a black and purple eye and my nose was broken!
Flagrant.

DrakeM Wed May 22, 2002 06:56am

Can you say, "handcuffs?"

iref21 Wed May 22, 2002 08:44am

Doug,

Call Lucias Harris (guard, Boston Cletics) and see if you can borrow that stupid face mask that he is wearing. I think this should help you out the next time you get attacked by flying basketballs.

ChuckElias Wed May 22, 2002 09:00am

Isn't Harris on the Nets? Right series, wrong team (I think).

Chuck

DrakeM Wed May 22, 2002 09:34am

Chuck,
You are correct.

BktBallRef Wed May 22, 2002 01:50pm

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Originally posted by DrakeM
Can you say, "handcuffs?"
Agreed. That's assault. :(

iref21 Wed May 22, 2002 07:56pm

Good call Chuck about Lucias, I have to pay more attention.

Doug Wed May 22, 2002 08:30pm

yes, that boys not playing any more!

JoeT Tue May 28, 2002 10:14am

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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:

Originally posted by Doug
I had a similar senario, except the kid yelled "hey ref"! So, i turned around only in enough time to have the ball wack me in the face! I had a black and purple eye and my nose was broken!
Flagrant.

Honestly, I thought the first version was flagrant as well. If a player makes an effort to hit a ref with anything (a ball or a fist), he should be gone without regard to how successful he was....


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