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ajs8207 Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:47pm

I feel like this is a ridiculous question...
 
This is my second year officiating. I went to camps this summer and got noticed and my assignor has given me a full scholastic schedule. (Which has a lot to due with reading this forum, so thank you everyone!). Anyway, my uniform last year was just a regular referee shirt, with the $5 IAABO patch. This season, I need more uniforms, as I am working multiple days a week. My question is about the American flag. I want to get them on my jersey. They come in white and gold borders. Everyone I have seen has the gold border one, but the white one just seems to go better. Should I get gold like everyone else, get white, or does it really not matter at all. I'm assuming its the ladder, but thought it was worth a question. Thanks!

blindofficial Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:52pm

Check your local association. They usually have a standard in which border you need to have on the flag. My association, for example, requires everyone to have the flag with a gold border.

Kingsman1288 Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:53pm

I would say it all depends on what your association's guidelines are. If everyone else is wearing the gold border, then get the gold border.

just another ref Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by ajs8207 (Post 545838)
I'm assuming its the ladder......


I assume this means you aspire to reach new heights.

Back In The Saddle Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:14pm

Hint: There's a reason they call it a "uniform". You do want to wear what your partners are wearing.

Nevadaref Sun Oct 26, 2008 03:55am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 545844)
I assume this means you aspire to reach new heights.

Very nice! :D

BillyMac Sun Oct 26, 2008 09:34am

You Must Have A Lot Of Veterans On Your Local Board ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajs8207 (Post 545838)
My question is about the American flag. I want to get them on my jersey. They come in white and gold borders. Everyone I have seen has the gold border one, but the white one just seems to go better. Should I get gold like everyone else, get white, or does it really not matter at all.

I guess that the border on the patch does matter: Military flag patches are often trimmed with gold borders. This is in imitation of the gold-fringed flag, also known as the U.S. military flag. According to an executive order signed by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1959, the gold-fringed flag, and, by extension, patch-sized replicas, are to be used exclusively by the armed forces.

Also, I guess that the fact that a patch is worn matters: United States Flag Code 176(j): No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.

Disclosure: I did not have the privilege of serving my country, but my late father served as a United States Army Staff Sergeant during World War II, served two years overseas in Africa and Italy, participated in the Battle of Rome Arno, and I proudly display the flag that draped his coffin in my home. I proudly display my flag on all national holidays, and whenever a Connecticut soldier, sailor, Marine, or airman, is killed in Iraq, or Afghanistan, 43 times in the past five and a half years. I also proudly wear a flag patch on my lab coat at work, I'm a chemist, and I display a flag on my desktop on both my lab, and my home computer, and will continue to do so until the patriotic, dedicated, men, and women, of our armed forces are safely home. Just because I cited the United States Flag Code does not mean that I'm against flag patchs.

mcarr Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:33am

Yellow border = active military

Adam Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:42am

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Originally Posted by ajs8207 (Post 545838)
This is my second year officiating. I went to camps this summer and got noticed and my assignor has given me a full scholastic schedule. (Which has a lot to due with reading this forum, so thank you everyone!). Anyway, my uniform last year was just a regular referee shirt, with the $5 IAABO patch. This season, I need more uniforms, as I am working multiple days a week. My question is about the American flag. I want to get them on my jersey. They come in white and gold borders. Everyone I have seen has the gold border one, but the white one just seems to go better. Should I get gold like everyone else, get white, or does it really not matter at all. I'm assuming its the ladder, but thought it was worth a question. Thanks!

Remember, the uniform isn't a fashion statement.

Also, while I understand the gold border is "supposed" to be worn by veterans only, I realize that's not how it's done in a lot of places. It's not like there's any enforcement mechanism for the flag code. Find out from someone high up in your association what the guideline is.

Mark Dexter Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:11am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 545853)
Hint: There's a reason they call it a "uniform". You do want to wear what your partners are wearing.

Unless your partner is Padgett!

BillyMac Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:23am

Welcome Back, Welcome Back, Welcome Back ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter (Post 545951)
Unless your partner is Padgett!

Mark Dexter. Welcome Back. We missed you. Happy belated Labor Day, and Columbus Day. And you missed all the fun we had with hijacked, offtopiced, imaged, inside joked, and joked threads. Too bad. It was more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

tjones1 Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:27am

Yabut...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter (Post 545951)
Unless your partner is Padgett!

It's really hard to find a pair of patent leather clown shoes that match Mark's. ;) I only wish I knew his shopping secrets!

Back In The Saddle Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 545960)
It's really hard to find a pair of patent leather clown shoes that match Mark's. ;) I only wish I knew his shopping secrets!

But Juulie did offer to sell me her remaining stock of fishnets. They match Padgett's. ;)

26 Year Gap Sun Oct 26, 2008 08:41pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 545960)
It's really hard to find a pair of patent leather clown shoes that match Mark's. ;) I only wish I knew his shopping secrets!

SSSSHHHHH!!!!! t-a-k-e a l-o-o-k a-t t-h-i-s.....

https://www.pinupshoes.com/p-26047-y...clown-05-.aspx

tjones1 Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:20pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 546080)
SSSSHHHHH!!!!! t-a-k-e a l-o-o-k a-t t-h-i-s.....

https://www.pinupshoes.com/p-26047-y...clown-05-.aspx


:D How many Sharpie's do you use to color in the yellow?

JRutledge Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:43pm

This is the very reason I have not worn a flag for basketball. This is way too much work to fit everyone's standards. In football at least the crew can decide what we are going to wear and we move on. I do not have to adhere to 20 different standards.

Peace

Texas Aggie Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:36pm

I've made the recommendation we don't wear flags. Aside from Rut's issues, I can't find any consistency on where guy's put the flags on their shirts. Some do 2 inches from the top, others 2 inches from the bottom, others wrong arm...

Lapel flag pins look nice. Flags on black and white striped shirts don't.

Kingsman1288 Mon Oct 27, 2008 04:13am

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 546127)
I've made the recommendation we don't wear flags. Aside from Rut's issues, I can't find any consistency on where guy's put the flags on their shirts. Some do 2 inches from the top, others 2 inches from the bottom, others wrong arm....

Exactly why as an unspoken rule (idk why it's not an actual rule) my association doesn't want us wearing flags.

Adam Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:08am

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Originally Posted by Kingsman1288 (Post 546137)
Exactly why as an unspoken rule (idk why it's not an actual rule) my association doesn't want us wearing flags.

There's also the fact that the US flag code also prohibits the wearing of the flag on a uniform; except for police, fire (I think), and military.

Again, since there's (rightly) no enforcement in place for the code, it's left up to individuals to follow on their own.

26 Year Gap Mon Oct 27, 2008 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 546109)
:D How many Sharpie's do you use to color in the yellow?

What do you mean? You want me to ruin a good pair of shoes?

BillyMac Mon Oct 27, 2008 09:25pm

Don't Forget Patriotic Organizations ...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 546200)
There's also the fact that the US flag code also prohibits the wearing of the flag on a uniform; except for police, fire (I think), and military.

United States Flag Code 176(j): No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.

tjones1 Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 546387)
What do you mean? You want me to ruin a good pair of shoes?

:D Good point!

Brad Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:18am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 546116)
I do not have to adhere to 20 different standards.

Damn Rut, how many leagues you working nowadays? :)

JRutledge Tue Oct 28, 2008 02:04am

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 546455)
Damn Rut, how many leagues you working nowadays? :)

I wish. :D

Peace


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