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chartrusepengui Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:39am

Hope it's not a sign of things to come!
 
Did my first BB this past Monday. Filled in with a buddy on last minute rescheduled 6th grade game. A small parochial school vs. public school. First two minutes great. Then the first foul requiring free throws. As we line up kids and move them into the "new" lane spaces I hear HC say: "this is gonna suck - even the GD referee don't know where the f-ing kids are supposed to be" WHACK

Didn't even make it 3 minutes into the season before having to get out the T :eek:

Scrapper1 Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:42am

That sure was a good one to get, though. Nicely done. :)

Raymond Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:46am

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 543261)
Did my first BB this past Monday. Filled in with a buddy on last minute rescheduled 6th grade game. A small parochial school vs. public school. First two minutes great. Then the first foul requiring free throws. As we line up kids and move them into the "new" lane spaces I hear HC say: "this is gonna suck - even the GD referee don't know where the f-ing kids are supposed to be" WHACK

Didn't even make it 3 minutes into the season before having to get out the T :eek:

You could have whacked him with a flagrant T and sent his a$$ packing.

Welpe Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:48am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 543265)
You could have whacked him with a flagrant T and sent his a$$ packing.

I don't work basketball but...I like this option, especially at the 6th grade level. :cool:

Ch1town Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:08pm

The parochial or public school coach?

chartrusepengui Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:10pm

I didn't have to ...... as I made the call the parish priest was already on way over and he came and sat 1 row directly behind the coach for the duration. I didn't have the heart to send her packing when it looked like she was already headed towards H.E. LL! I never heard another word out of her. :D

mick Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 543274)
I didn't have to ...... as I made the call the parish priest was already on way over and he came and sat 1 row directly behind the coach for the duration. I didn't have the heart to send her packing when it looked like she was already headed towards H.E. LL! I never heard another word out of her. :D

Maybe the priest will buy her this year's books.

Mark Padgett Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 543261)
Did my first BB this past Monday. Filled in with a buddy on last minute rescheduled 6th grade game. A small parochial school vs. public school. First two minutes great. Then the first foul requiring free throws. As we line up kids and move them into the "new" lane spaces I hear HC say: "this is gonna suck - even the GD referee don't know where the f-ing kids are supposed to be" WHACK

Didn't even make it 3 minutes into the season before having to get out the T :eek:

Great job. Take a cookie out of petty cash. ;)

TravelinMan Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:30pm

here's a case where table side mechanics could increase the number of t's - complete opposite of its intended purpose. Wouldn't hear it if opposite table.

tjones1 Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by TravelinMan (Post 543286)
here's a case where table side mechanics could increase the number of t's - complete opposite of its intended purpose. Wouldn't hear it if opposite table.

:confused:

I would assume this was 2-man mechanics (6th grade game). I don't think the official in this thread was table side.

TravelinMan Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42pm

In Georgia, our association instructed us to use tableside mechanics even with 2 man. Not sure what other states are doing.

JugglingReferee Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 543261)
Did my first BB this past Monday. Filled in with a buddy on last minute rescheduled 6th grade game. A small parochial school vs. public school. First two minutes great. Then the first foul requiring free throws. As we line up kids and move them into the "new" lane spaces I hear HC say: "this is gonna suck - even the GD referee don't know where the f-ing kids are supposed to be" WHACK

Didn't even make it 3 minutes into the season before having to get out the T :eek:

Hmm... out loud he uses the F word in front of 11 year olds? And you T him? Why not a flagrant T?

CoachP Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:51pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 543294)
Hmm... out loud She uses the F word in front of 11 year olds? And you T him? Why not a flagrant T?

Worse...I fixed it for ya.....

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by TravelinMan (Post 543286)
here's a case where table side mechanics could increase the number of t's - complete opposite of its intended purpose. Wouldn't hear it if opposite table.

This is definitely a case where I'd prefer to hear the comment and deal with it. Wouldn't you? ;)

Mark Padgett Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:03pm

In our local kids rec league, this language would have resulted in a flagrant T, and then indefinite suspension from the league. The coach would have to appear before a committee of the Board to ask for reinstatement. In a case like this, it's likely the suspension would be at least for the remainder of the season, and possibly for life.

We don't mess around, boy. :mad:

CoachCER Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:19pm

Wow. Just wow. If that happened in our program, the coach would be gone for good.
We had a middlle school coach drop the F-bomb in the locker room with 7th grade boys, along with throwing a chair against the wall. He is no longer with us.

TravelinMan Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:40pm

BITS, would definitely like to have taken care of this coach myself. He (she) would have been gone...... :D

CoachCER, sounds like you run a class program. :)

TravelinMan Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:43pm

CoachCER - I belonged to Greater Georgia association. Meetings were at Sandy Creek HS. Did a lot of games your way. Glad to have coaches interested in rules. :)

JugglingReferee Wed Oct 15, 2008 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 543299)
Worse...I fixed it for ya.....

There is the evidence that I replied before reading the other posts. :)

chartrusepengui Wed Oct 15, 2008 02:59pm

Usually a great place to work. Friendly people, friendly coaches even. Players all come and shake your hand and thank you before getting in line and shaking each others hands. I guess there are a couple reasons I didn't make it flagrant.
1. I was so surprised to hear something like that in that gym. My whistle went of automatically almost as I was looking in disbelief.

2. Saw priest already crossing court to take care of situation - I'm not catholic but still - I've never seen a priest move that quickly before.

3. Saw no one else to coach kids - and it was not the kids fault. Even thought about the priest but didn't know if he could stay. Didn't want to punish the kids for an adult's mistake.

4. Coach backed off immediately, sat and got very quiet. They knew it was a BIG mistake :(

BillyMac Wed Oct 15, 2008 06:55pm

Penalty For A Techncial Foul: Two Our Fathers, Two Hail Marys ...
 
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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 543350)
Saw priest already crossing court to take care of situation. I'm not Catholic but still. I've never seen a priest move that quickly before.

I'm Catholic (see my signature), but I wouldn't put priests an any kind of pedestal when they're in the gymnasium. They're just team supporters, like anybody else associated with the team. Our interpreter tells a story about giving a technical foul to a priest, who was acting as the the team chaplin, sitting on the St. Anselm (NCAA Division II, New Hampshire) bench, who was complaining about a call.

I've never given a technical foul to a priest, or nun, but I've come close during my Catholic high school, and middle school games.

Adam Wed Oct 15, 2008 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 543396)
I'm Catholic (see my signature), but I wouldn't put priests an any kind of pedestal when they're in the gymnasium. They're just team supporters, like anybody else associated with the team. Our interpreter tells a story about giving a technical foul to a priest, who was acting as the the team chaplin, sitting on the St. Anselm (NCAA Division II, New Hampshire) bench, who was complaining about a call.

I've never given a technical foul to a priest, or nun, but I've come close during my Catholic high school, and middle school games.

My understanding, based on "the parish priest," is that this particular priest would be closer to an AD or Superintendent than a "team supporter." Some deference and patience may be in order in this case.

Coltdoggs Wed Oct 15, 2008 07:46pm

6th grade...yeah, I'm going Flagrant and tossing for the F-bomb.

Of course this is also the guy who tossed a 4th grade girls coach (guy) for telling me "they are getting raped out there!" :mad: Buh-bye!

Like Mark, My rec league would have banned the coach also...just no place for that in kids' sports and I'm good for an F-bomb of my own now and again...but not on the court.


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