Calling an illegal screen

CaRef5

JRutledge wrote
Help me out here. When did an illegal screen become a violation? And what is the signal for an illegal screen? Just a question. 😀

Peace

it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?

and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

Back In The Saddle

CaRef5 wrote
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?

and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

An illegal screen is a foul. If it is by the offense (and it almost always is) then the TC signal normally applies. But you still need to report the type of foul. Normally it'll be a block, but sometimes can be a hold or a push.

May I suggest you go study up on NFHS 4-40

BillyMac

JRutledge wrote
Help me out here. When did an illegal screen become a violation?

Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.

Adam

CaRef5 wrote
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?

and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

Back In The Saddle wrote
An illegal screen is a foul. If it is by the offense (and it almost always is) then the TC signal normally applies. But you still need to report the type of foul. Normally it'll be a block, but sometimes can be a hold or a push.

May I suggest you go study up on NFHS 4-40

Just to add to BITS' excellent response.

Make sure there's illegal contact before you call a foul. The screener can be moving all they want if there's no contact; and there's nothing to call. Further, not all contact is illegal.

CaRef5

BillyMac wrote
Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.

howd you know BMac?! have fun doing girls jv this year 😉

JRutledge

CaRef5 wrote
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?

and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

An illegal screen could be a push, hold, block depending on the action. But I was just wondering what the signal you referred to is?

Peace

BillyMac

CaRef5 wrote
howd you know BMac?! have fun doing girls jv this year.

Been there (junior varsity, not San Jose). Done that. We all have to start somewhere. We have all learned from our mistakes. I still do.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.

San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

CaRef5

BadNewsRef wrote
San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

🙂 i thought i was the only one who noticed he said Southern California haha

il give you a clue to where in California San Jose is located.... Silicon Valley 😉

BillyMac

BadNewsRef wrote
San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

In that case I guess that he won't be getting a full NCAA Division I schedule in only three years.

Camron Rust

BillyMac wrote
I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

Sure, it is "Spanish sounding". You might be interested to know that, at times, Mexico include all of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah. I've even seen a map that included areas up to Montanna.

Also, Spaniards were there too....before it was part of Mexico..well before these places became part of the US. San Francisco is a Spanish (from Spain) name, not Mexican.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

In that case I guess that he won't be getting a full NCAA Division I schedule in only three years.

The "Spanish sounding" cities that get you to D1 in 3 years are Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara.

M&M Guy

BadNewsRef wrote
The "Spanish sounding" cities that get you to D1 in 3 years are Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara.

So, if you're in Oceanside you're outta luck?

Raymond

M&M Guy wrote
So, if you're in Oceanside you're outta luck?

No, b/c you can claim to live in a suburb of San Diego when you fill out your resume'. 😀

doubleringer

Here's what I have. I try to get my fist in the air, but admittedly I know I get sloppy with this at the college level and it works its way into my high school games. Then I do my punch (team control foul) mechanic in the direction we will be going, say "illegal screen" and point to where the ball will be inbounded. At the table I report the color, number and give the team control foul signal and report it as an illegal screen. If a coach asks about it, I'll sometimes tap my knee, or toss out a little elbow to show what the player did.

CaRef5

Sorry guys BUT i dont need a reference to a city to get me a full D1 schedule in 3 years 😉

Kingsman1288

BadNewsRef wrote
The "Spanish sounding" cities that get you to D1 in 3 years are Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara.

Entonces me siento muy afortunado de vivir en San Diego. Lastima que todos los demás no es tan afortunado como yo. D1 aqui voy!

Adam

CaRef5 wrote
Sorry guys BUT i dont need a reference to a city to get me a full D1 schedule in 3 years 😉

Maybe not, but a more solid rules understanding couldn't hurt.

BillyMac

Kingsman1288 wrote
Entonces me siento muy afortunado de vivir en San Diego. Lastima que todos los demás no es tan afortunado como yo. D1 aqui voy!

I agree. I also miss Jurassic Referee, and ChuckElias, and wish that they would come back to the Forum. I didn't know that the Forum had it's headquarters in San Diego.

Kingsman1288

BillyMac wrote
I agree. I also miss Jurassic Referee, and ChuckElias, and wish that they would come back to the Forum. I didn't know that the Forum had it's headquarters in San Diego.

Haha...

Knowing Spanish comes in handy during the game. Players who speak Spanish around here tend to express their frustration in Spanish, so when then they do I respond to them in Spanish. You should see the way the jaws drop when they hear it from me...

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