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JRutledge Wed Oct 22, 2008 06:12pm

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Originally Posted by CaRef5 (Post 544926)
ok an illegal screen is a violation...so then in that case you would just stop the clock with your hand straight up in the air, then do the signal for an illegal screen point to the spot and color of the team that is going to be having the ball for either you, or your partner, to know where the ball is going.

am i right?

Help me out here. When did an illegal screen become a violation? And what is the signal for an illegal screen? Just a question. :D

Peace

CaRef5 Wed Oct 22, 2008 07:30pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 544933)
Help me out here. When did an illegal screen become a violation? And what is the signal for an illegal screen? Just a question. :D

Peace

it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?


and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 22, 2008 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by CaRef5 (Post 544946)
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?


and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

An illegal screen is a foul. If it is by the offense (and it almost always is) then the TC signal normally applies. But you still need to report the type of foul. Normally it'll be a block, but sometimes can be a hold or a push.

May I suggest you go study up on NFHS 4-40

BillyMac Wed Oct 22, 2008 09:06pm

He Also Likes To Call Personal Fouls During Dead Balls ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 544933)
Help me out here. When did an illegal screen become a violation?

Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.

Adam Wed Oct 22, 2008 09:40pm

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Originally Posted by CaRef5 (Post 544946)
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?


and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 544950)
An illegal screen is a foul. If it is by the offense (and it almost always is) then the TC signal normally applies. But you still need to report the type of foul. Normally it'll be a block, but sometimes can be a hold or a push.

May I suggest you go study up on NFHS 4-40

Just to add to BITS' excellent response.

Make sure there's illegal contact before you call a foul. The screener can be moving all they want if there's no contact; and there's nothing to call. Further, not all contact is illegal.

CaRef5 Wed Oct 22, 2008 09:54pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 544971)
Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.


howd you know BMac?! have fun doing girls jv this year ;)

JRutledge Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5 (Post 544946)
it isn't a violation? your right! i thought i saw it in the violations part of the signals in the rule book.... but an illegal screen is a foul?

what would it constitute? a foul maybe?


and i am assuming there is no signal for an illegal screen (just the TC)...right?

An illegal screen could be a push, hold, block depending on the action. But I was just wondering what the signal you referred to is?

Peace

BillyMac Thu Oct 23, 2008 06:21am

Do You Know The Way To San Jose ???
 
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Originally Posted by CaRef5 (Post 544985)
howd you know BMac?! have fun doing girls jv this year.

Been there (junior varsity, not San Jose). Done that. We all have to start somewhere. We have all learned from our mistakes. I still do.

Raymond Thu Oct 23, 2008 07:15am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 544971)
Maybe you missed it, but this is one of those Southern California officials that will be working a full NCAA Division I schedule in three years.

San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

CaRef5 Thu Oct 23, 2008 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 545021)
San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

:) i thought i was the only one who noticed he said Southern California haha


il give you a clue to where in California San Jose is located.... Silicon Valley ;)

BillyMac Thu Oct 23, 2008 06:53pm

Boy am I embarrassed ...
 
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 545021)
San Jose is most definitely not in Southern California.

I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

In that case I guess that he won't be getting a full NCAA Division I schedule in only three years.

Camron Rust Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:48pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 545260)
I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

Sure, it is "Spanish sounding". You might be interested to know that, at times, Mexico include all of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah. I've even seen a map that included areas up to Montanna.

Also, Spaniards were there too....before it was part of Mexico..well before these places became part of the US. San Francisco is a Spanish (from Spain) name, not Mexican.

Raymond Fri Oct 24, 2008 07:49am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 545260)
I was thinking about this at work today. The "Spanish sounding" name threw me. Isn't San Jose near San Francisco, another "Spanish sounding" name?

In that case I guess that he won't be getting a full NCAA Division I schedule in only three years.

The "Spanish sounding" cities that get you to D1 in 3 years are Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara.

M&M Guy Fri Oct 24, 2008 09:09am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 545400)
The "Spanish sounding" cities that get you to D1 in 3 years are Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Barbara.

So, if you're in Oceanside you're outta luck?

Raymond Fri Oct 24, 2008 09:15am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 545432)
So, if you're in Oceanside you're outta luck?


No, b/c you can claim to live in a suburb of San Diego when you fill out your resume'. :D


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