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Skimming through some of the Olympics on DVR, Spain's semifinal I think. A guy drove the lane and I had the thought: "Not sure exactly what he just did, but no way was it legal." Would I have blown the whistle with the look I had? Yes.
Could I have exactly described the illegal foot movement before I saw the replay? No. I knew, as much as you can know in a case like this, that he had moved both feet after picking up his dribble. (DVR confirmed the call) We have had many discussions recently, regarding traveling among other things, about being certain, being able to explain what you saw to a coach or an assignor, etc. My question is would some refuse to make this call if they were unable to tell exactly how each foot moved? Still trying to find the reason why so many violations are not called. The Olympics was no exception. |
As a general rule if I am not sure, I will pass on a violation. I would rather miss a violation that took place then call something that clearly was not a violation.
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In this case the guy picked up his dribble and came down, left foot first. He then did a little triple jump action. A short hop on the left foot, followed by a long stride where the left foot actually left the floor and he came down on his right before releasing the ball on the pass. Would you make the call just saying "I'm sure he moved both feet, or would you have to know every little detail? He shuffled the left foot, etc. |
I Don't Know FIBA Rules, But ...
(I copied this from an earlier post of mine)
In 2001, my daughter's U15 AAU team participated in the Eurobaskeight International Basketball Tournament, in Lloret De Mar, Spain, involving teams from fourteen countries. I went along as a parent chaperon. As I watched her six games, I was wearing three hats, that of a high school varsity official, that of a middle school basketball coach, and that of a team supporter, in other words, I wasn't observing the game entirely as an official, as I would today. I don't know a thing about FIBA rules, but I did notice one thing right away in the first game, that carried over into the last five games, with many different officials: Traveling was called differently, depending on where the ball handler was, and where she was going with the ball. If a ball handler was simply dribbling around the perimeter, passing the ball to teammates, or catching the ball to start a dribble, traveling was called early and often, very strictly, no gray areas, and in many cases I disagreed with the call. On the other hand, when the ball handler was making a move to the basket that ended in a shot, it seemed like there was a lot of leeway given to that player, it almost seemed that they were allowed a little extra before traveling was called, and again, I disagreed with some of the calls. I know that a lot of Forum members will tell me that the travel rule is the same for FIBA as it is for NFHS, but the above mentioned situations occurred over and over again. Maybe it's not a matter of the written rule, maybe it a matter of local interpretations. |
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"Moving of the pivot foot" is not actually a violation because you can move it into the air as long as it doesn't touch the floor again. Moving of the pivot foot to a new spot on the floor is implied in your statement but some people just insist that you spell out every little obvious detail. |
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Any other time, the pivot must be lifted AND put back down on the floor or the player must fall to the floor for it to be traveling. |
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2) His statement did not imply what you say it did. 3) He meant something (lifting the pivot before a dribble) totally different from what you thought he meant (lifting the pivot and re-touching the floor); so obviously we all don't know what he was saying. He made a blanket statement -- if you know the pivot moved, call the violation -- that is simply not true. Those of us with experience (including btaylor) know when you can and can't move your pivot foot, but there might be new officials reading that who don't know. I was simply trying to make the point that a player can move the pivot foot in lots of legal ways. I guess I could've made it in a better manner. |
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