GPS Play Haven't had one in awhile

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I see the point of bringing up the case play, but I've always thought of that as being a sort of "exception" that was put in to prevent a player from intentionally circumventing a rule. It seems like they didn't want to change the definition of travelling, but they realized that, as written, the rule allowed a player to weasel out of this situation. So they put in that one sentence.

Right. And I think the play presented is also "circumventing the rule" -- so, I think the same logic applies.

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Additionally, what does case 4.43.5B have to do with lifting the pivot before releasing on a pass or try? I'm not sure I see the connection Bob seems to be making.

The case has might not have anything to do with lifting the pivot foot. I just used it (a) in response to a specific question, and (b) to show that placing the ball on the floor is equivalent to holding the ball. Thus, the rest of 4-43 applies to the situation (4-43 applies only when holding the ball)

And since when is it a violation to lift the pivot before releasing the ball on a pass or try? Obviously, I've missed Bob's real point somehow. Are you equating the original play with the following?

Sorry -- that should be "violation to lift the pivot foot except before releasing the ball on a pass or try."

So, I say that there's no difference between getting the ball while lying on the floor or while standing up, and then placing the ball on the floor, moving the pivot foot, then retouching the ball.

Hope that's clearer.
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